Would you trust an open source software maintained by a developer who you disagree with politically (or otherwise don't like the developer)?
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I used to feel this way but I need more nuance now.
If I had a global (or national, or statewide, or even citywide) platform of any kind, and there were momentous things happening in the world that I felt were wrong, and that I felt needed more awareness, how could I not use my platform?
I used to be so sick of celebrities with their political statements until one day that hit me. How could you, in good conscience (and this is true even of opinions I don't agree with) find yourself with millions of people willing to listen to you, how could you not use your platform if you feel strongly enough that there is a moral or ethical obligation to speak up?
It's a matter of trust, I can't trust magats to be competent.
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"Trust" as in: trust it enough to run it on your machine.
(And assuming that you can't understand code yourself)
Most of the time : Yes
But it depends on a lot of things :
Is there any viable alternatives ?
What's the nature of the disagreement ?
Is there a possibility of a fork emerging ?
Etc...I hate google but I can't replace Android studio at work or ask my employer to stop releasing updates on google play.
If the disagreement is about project governance, I would support forking, see CoMaps or Forgejo.
I will avoid projects for a variety of reason, two good examples are Manjaro and Hyperland, I avoid the former because of their collaboration politics and the later because they are plain bigots.Politics can encompass a lot of thing and open source is a very political subject.
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"Trust" as in: trust it enough to run it on your machine.
(And assuming that you can't understand code yourself)
No. If I disagree with someone politically it's likely because they want me and anyone like me dead. Those people are dead to me.
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"Trust" as in: trust it enough to run it on your machine.
(And assuming that you can't understand code yourself)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReiserFS
Reiser was convicted of the first-degree murder of his wife, Nina Reiser
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It's a matter of trust, I can't trust magats to be competent.
You might have replied to the wrong guy. I really didn't touch on that.
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If it was state funded by a functioning state I would agree with you, but I wouldn't be surprised if Russia was kicking these guys a modest living to undermine American social media companies.
I mean, I got banned personally by Dessalines from lemmy.ml for mildly suggesting that a meme felt like it was a Chinese op designed to provoke in-fighting in western countries.
Not rudely, not aggressively, literally just questioning whether it could be in the comments below.
Tbh, I think most people just don't understand that Lemmy is where all the quote un quote "tankies" that got banned or felt disenfranchised with reddit ended up in. They truly believe in whatever they are saying. Some of these people tend to be pro China and or even Russia, AND are real people who actually believe in their ideology and what they are saying, and aren't just foreign agents. As for undermining American social media companies? Tiktok is already one of the most popular social media sites out there.
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"Trust" as in: trust it enough to run it on your machine.
(And assuming that you can't understand code yourself)
it depends on what the software is doing i guess
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That's basically my understanding, I thought there was another layer to it that I wasn't aware of. I wouldn't say 'avoid' but I would say 'caution' to others, currently.
I am planning to try mulvad at the end of my proton vpn subscription, which is the only proton service I use (+ a dead mailbox too, just in case I forgot a site when transferring out a few years ago). I run my own vpn through a vps, but for stuff that I need full disassociation I'll still fire up proton, for now. 3y subs and all that.
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"Trust" as in: trust it enough to run it on your machine.
(And assuming that you can't understand code yourself)
I'd see it as a seal of quality if the developer is a crank.
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i'm so excited about the progress piefed is making and my home instance's plans to migrate
Wait. How similar is piefed to Lemmy? Does Voyager work with it?
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Wait. How similar is piefed to Lemmy? Does Voyager work with it?
extremely similar with some serious quality of life improvements and better dev leadership. the api, per my understanding, is similar to lemmy, but not wholly compatible. voyager, i do not think, does not support piefed currently (i will need to switch apps)
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"Trust" as in: trust it enough to run it on your machine.
(And assuming that you can't understand code yourself)
Yes, since not liking or disagreeing with someone isn't the same thing as likelihood they are pushing malicious code. If something is open source that's a really good sign, because they could also push closed source code and be more likely to get away with it that way. More points if it clearly has other eyes on it; even if I am not checking over the code myself, someone probably is for a lot of projects.
It's like "separate art from artist" except even more so because software tends to be even more quantifiable as its own independent thing than art is.
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"Trust" as in: trust it enough to run it on your machine.
(And assuming that you can't understand code yourself)
Who's out here trying to figure out the political or other beliefs of developers? I've got around 50 docker containers running on my server, there's no way I'm going through people's profiles to see if they're morally aligned with me.
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No. If I disagree with someone politically it's likely because they want me and anyone like me dead. Those people are dead to me.
I'm pretty sure we'll disagree politically on many issues but I don't want you or anyone like you dead. I hope people in the US will stop viewing politics as cults and start to communicate with people disagreeing with them.
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I'm pretty sure we'll disagree politically on many issues but I don't want you or anyone like you dead. I hope people in the US will stop viewing politics as cults and start to communicate with people disagreeing with them.
For the first 40+ years of my life, sure. For the past 10...we are suffering from a cult.
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"Trust" as in: trust it enough to run it on your machine.
(And assuming that you can't understand code yourself)
I trust the Lemmy developers enough to use their platform hosted on external servers despite them being Marxist clowns, but I wouldn't self host without a thorough code review.
And I'm seriously just waiting for a decent piefed app in order to ditch the platform altogether. So far voyager is the most functionally complete one, but doesn't look very appealing.
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"Trust" as in: trust it enough to run it on your machine.
(And assuming that you can't understand code yourself)
no.
IMO conservatives are untrustworthy and can't identify fact from fiction.
would you run software from a dev who has a problem discerning reality? do you think a schizophrenic person writes stable maintainable code?
mental health is an important part of gaining trust in your product. ironic that they continue to trust and support a geriatric nazi-wannabe, but goes to show how compromised conservatives are when it comes to their decision making skills.
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"Trust" as in: trust it enough to run it on your machine.
(And assuming that you can't understand code yourself)
if it is open source and sources I trust approve of it, sure
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"Trust" as in: trust it enough to run it on your machine.
(And assuming that you can't understand code yourself)
it depends entirely on the context, what the software is, alternatives... etc
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I'm pretty sure we'll disagree politically on many issues but I don't want you or anyone like you dead. I hope people in the US will stop viewing politics as cults and start to communicate with people disagreeing with them.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Do you support trans rights? Do you support immigration? Do you support the demilitarization of police and complete restructuring of the current US "justice" system? Do you know why credit scores exist? Do you support using taxes to provide for our most vulnerable? Do you know what diversity, equity, and inclusion are?
If you said no to any of those, then I doubt we share common ground
