Public Firehose Project Shutters After Backlash

[breadcat@sh.itjust.works]

it kind of is

[gullible@sh.itjust.works]

How’d people drive off that YouTube tech reviewer?

[breadcat@sh.itjust.works]

I don't like Gleason or nostr but this happened with mostr too lol, people were getting real up in arms accusing it of duplicating accounts, going so far as to DMCA the project. but that's literally how federation works, any account or post that's federated is cached on the instance lol. it's like people don't realize that their public posts are public

[deadsuperhero@lemmy.world]

Same thing initially happened with BridgyFed: https://wedistribute.org/2024/02/tear-down-walls-not-bridges/

[deadsuperhero@lemmy.world]

Yeah, that was the Content Nation debacle: https://wedistribute.org/2024/03/contentnation-mastodons-toxicity/

What's really sad is that the CN dev is actually a super nice and thoughtful dude. In his jurisdiction (Germany) he could've gone to prison after being caught with said materials.

[wraithgear@lemmy.world]

We did WHAT?!

[zak@lemmy.world]

There's a small, but extremely loud segment of the Mastodon userbase that seems to view presenting public posts in any manner that's different from how a vanilla Mastodon server does as an invasion of their privacy. There have also been a few projects that raised reasonable concerns about privacy and moderation, but this page doesn't seem to make a distinction.

It appears to contain misinformation about FediFirehose, which ran client side and just showed the output of a public relay.

[skaverat@discuss.tchncs.de]

Basically by being (often pretentious) assholes.

One of the relevant posts

But if you scroll his timeline a bit (it really isn't that much), you can see similar discussions

[kichae@lemmy.ca]

The fediverse is "the internet". Like, in conception, it's taking everything that's publicly available on the internet and making it auto-mirrorable-at-request.

So yes, on some fundamental level, it's a shit show. Because the internet is the worst of us.

[kichae@lemmy.ca]

It's not nearly a small enough segment, really. It's a fairly significant fraction of the pre-2022 population.

They were excited to see people show up after Musk bought Twitter, but it was a very "now you'll have to play by OUR rules!" kind of excitement.

[rglullis@communick.news]

Just bullies who unfortunately think they own the place.

[jake_farm@sopuli.xyz]

This is more than bullies, this is criminal, child abuse.

[muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee]

That's fucking disappointing. Are mastodon users stupid or just on a which hunt? That poor dev worked hard to develop a project where they did something they though was cool, invested part of themselves in the project, then took the risk to release it publicly because they where proud of their work. And what fucking happens. They get shit on for no reason whatsoever.

Ik what its like I made [email protected] put it in its own community so people didn't have to engage if they didn't want to. The amount of hate I got (from people who didn't understand the tech) saying it would do things it couldn't or that it was an ai grift (it has a fucking agpl licence).

Fuck everyone hating on this poor dev I'm gonna go send em some love on mastodon so they don't just give up on programming or sharing their art with the world.

[ulrich@feddit.org]

We drove off fucking Alec of Technology Connections for crying out loud.

Sorry but we are better off. I love his videos but his presence is toxic. Some people just love to argue and he is one of them.

[gbu_28@lemm.ee]

Fediverse users are not inherently good people. They're just people.

[yardy_sardley@lemmy.ca]

To be totally fair, nostr's whole thing is that users can delete all of their federated data if they want to, so it makes sense if they are upset about having their data copied to a place they can't control.

Not sure how realistic that is with the data being publicly accessible via the web, but I wouldn't be surprised if the they have some kind of license that gives the dmca request the ability to hold a nonzero amount of water. Then again, I wouldn't be suprised if completely fails, either.

[subignition@piefed.social]

Are mastodon users stupid or just on a which hunt?

[breadcat@sh.itjust.works]

nostr relays can comply with delete requests or not, same with fedi servers. pretty sure they all do though and relays don't share posts with each other. there's a couple of crawler services like nostr.band and noswhere for search and indexing, but if you delete your fedi post or don't post publicly it should be gone from mostr

[yardy_sardley@lemmy.ca]

Yeah, I really wish people would be a little more tactful when they go on performative tirades like this. It's giving "old man yells at cloud" energy. Ridiculous behaviour when you think about it. People can block clouds, yelling is worse than useless.

[xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org]

Ah yes, the “federated” platform where most people don’t want their posts to be visible to anyone outside the platform.