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Proton has not gone rogue.

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I'm also looking to migrate and was recommended this service when I asked a similar question to OP. https://www.migadu.com/index.html

Unlimited inboxes. You're just limited to inbox space, but you can have multiple domains.

I'll be moving over to them when my current subscription runs out with my current provider

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I don't care about that. I assume all sites keeps logs.

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It does make me feel a little better, but the fact that they doubled down and hasn't gone out to clarify make me really disappointed. Because they are a non profit foundation makes it a bit more secure also.

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Another mailbox.org user here. I did the same switch around the same time and I can recommend as well. Setting up custom domains is also not hard and well documented in their knowledge-base. I am also using it for calendars and contacts with no issues at all. A plus of their premium (3€/month) plan is that you have access to a series of other things (appointments, videoconferencing etc.) which are a nice thing to have if you need them (as an occasional teacher in academia I enjoyed having the options, especially since I could avoid Google/Microsoft stuff).

The only annoying thing is how they handle 2fa login on their website. I rarely need to login, but when I do I always suffer.

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I strongly recommend this as well. Swapped to Tuta and my own domain after leaving Proton. Having a domain for future moves is huge, I wish I had considered it sooner.

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Consider one that supports MTA-STS. DANE is a plus but not widely deployed.

If EU, you have a lot of good choices. US providers are limited.

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https://mxroute.com/ if you need many different domains and email addresses but don't need a huge amount of space, very cheap and just works.

But if you have issues the guys who run it are quite rough and brutal, so support wil be tough on you and expect you know a lot about protocols, etc.

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oh yeah, I have my own domain since Uhm 2004 and have switched providers about, hm, six times without problems. I never delete emails either (spam I do) and just use Thunderbird's drag and drop to move MA mails from one server to another.

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Tutanota, startmail, protonmail, etc.

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proton works, idc what one of the 5 owners say, it is impossible to avoid that type of people

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Another mailbox.org user here. I did the same switch as @[email protected] around the same time and I can highly recommend as well. Setting up custom domains is also not hard and well documented in their knowledge-base. I am also using it for calendars and contacts with no issues at all. A plus of their premium (3€/month) plan, apart from custom domains, is that you have access to a series of other things (appointments, videoconferencing etc.) which are a nice thing to have if you need them (as an occasional teacher in academia I enjoyed having the options, especially since I could avoid Google/Microsoft stuff).

The only annoying thing is how they handle 2fa login on their website. I rarely need to login, but when I do I always suffer.

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I second mxroute. They are solid

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I like to dish out advice without actually following it.

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can you expand on the guys being rough & brutal? can’t find anything about that in a search.

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But they re-register emails

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First hint is already on the FrontPage:

We do expect you to understand how to use email and how to configure your DNS to use our service

Second hint, the very aggressive way their documentation is written with big font, repeating and slight threats. See https://mxroutedocs.com/dns/dnsrecords/

Third one, their refund policy in the FAQs:

We do not offer refunds. Please do not sign up unless you are comfortable with your choice.

And there are quite many people writing about their encounters online with them, like:

And so on. If you can handle working in open source you can handle them too. They are very direct which is off putting for some people, but they care deeply about their customers.

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Unfortunately, several of his conclusions are drawn from either errors or outright lies, or simply things being swept aside. Several of his later posts are ignored, as is the amount he doubled down. Him using the official proton accounts to call his statements the official proton stance is waved away. It basically only examines the cleaned up, shiny final version of events proton would like you to pretend happened after they deleted everything, instead of what actually happened. Worse, it pretends that was the only chain of events that happened. It's straight up gaslighting.

It's a very, very biased article that doesn't even attempt to do any kind of deep analysis and just tries to justify its stance by cherry picking, instead of actually looking at the facts and coming to a conclusion from there.

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Proton's CEO turned out to be a Trumper with a Nazi dogwhistle username and a lot of Republican buzzwords peppering his vocabulary. Lots of people are defending Proton anyway because of sunk cost fallacy.

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It was the company’s official stance

The CEO is a big enough douche that I'll not migrate to them.

It was a stunt, by an idiot to try to gain favor with trump. He was probably trying for a cabinet position in his tech bro circle. If it's his intent, and he owns majority share, it's their intent.

If he doesn't own a majority share, they're all complicit

When PR rolled in to wash out the stain, he just ran is mouth about not being political, even though he was literally just political.

As far as the company goes, they outed an Activist, so they're not privacy first. They'll sell you up the river in a second if someone with any power or money asks.

They're private enough not to sell your data/eyes like google/microsoft (for now). I suspect if sony starts going after torrenters in this new world order we've got brewing, they wouldn't hesitate to out you.

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