Trump tells Zelensky 'make a deal or we're out' in angry White House meeting
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Huh. I guess it’s high time for the Norwegians to develop a sense of humour then.
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If that's your goal, then you need to understand that Americans give even less of a fuck about the framing you gave it. It's not the Cold War anymore; Americans have no concept that "Russia... expanding their borders and influence" would affect them in any way. Americans don't even have a fucking clue where the borders being fought over even are!
At least the "Ukrainian self-defense" angle has a clear villain and a heroic scrappy underdog to root for as entertainment. In terms of getting Americans to care, that really is your best bet.
(Source: am American. And if you think this viewpoint is even more cynical than yours, then congratulations, you're correct.)
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Indeed, especially during the first Cold War, the US Military Industrial Complex was everywhere. Germany and Japan were forced to buy out dated shit from the Americans. The magical button, tell the US military to shutdown all their European military installations and leave. What would the US MIC do then? I highly doubt they want to lose business.
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I'm sure Germany, France, or the UK would love to get the mineral rights that Trump is after.
I really want this to blow up in Trump's face. Rude strongarm tactics is a real bad look.
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You forgot to mention China. Unless the EU gets its shit together and resists the same forces that are destroying the US, China is going to become that unipole.
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Try telling the blue MAGA conservatives.
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Or a civil war.
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Of course liberals arent friends of democracy.
Liberals refuse to replace First past the post voting with a more representative electoral system. You can see them here, in this thread, circlejerking over the fact that people are unrepresented by their options at the polls.
We will most likely be using FPTP voting for the mid terms, and these same blue conservatives will be howling about 3rd parties existing. All while doing nothing to fix the spoiler effect that is inherent in the mathematically flawed voting system most states use.
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Before completely cutting off ties from the US showing the public attempts had been made for diplomacy and providing evidence of what a bad actor US has become is important.
Showing is way more impactful and supports moves made afterwards than just making claims and cutting ties.
So not completely pointless, since the public needs to be able to come to the conclusion themselves first before drastic foreign relation changes can be made.
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He’s made noise about NATO, but… he makes a lot of noise. He also, to a small extent had a point at one time about nations committing the agreed upon percentages of their budgets to defense. Regardless, today’s actions paint a pretty clear picture for Europe and the rest of the world.
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They have to send support. They could send a pallet of underpants and say they did their end of support.
I wish NATO was 1/100th what Russia and it's supporters think it is.
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All these years after winning it. That’s some special war-fightin right there!
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But he doesn't even understand how that works, he thought it was protection money. "Ya gotta pay your bills"
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i need something to bring my blood pressure down. i am flushed with anger. make your own mirror of this if you download yt-dlp run from command line
yt-dlp https://youtu.be/uqOOOR7Kr-s
"this is gonna be great television, i'll tell you that" - Donald Trump, 025/28/2, he tried to bully Ukrainian president Zelenskyy on live tv
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I sure as hell hope we don't make our support contingent on securing mineral rights from Ukraine while they're over a barrel.
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They can be both.
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This was very helpful to read. Thank you.
