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    There are functional firewall apps for android? Is Rethink good?

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    Yes, it also let you change your DNS and block websites. There's also invizible pro which also adds tor and i2p but rethink have a better UI.

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      Provides a single process that can be used by all message apps so that they don't need to implement backdoors into all of them?

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      Worried I'm getting a bit too paranoid, but...

      Why backdoor the messaging apps when you can just monitor the entire OS?

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      • chillpill@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

        Worried I'm getting a bit too paranoid, but...

        Why backdoor the messaging apps when you can just monitor the entire OS?

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        Having control over the OS doesn't help if the OS doesn't understand the app's data.

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          Firewalls are a great way to tell if new apps are secrely installed

          Btw what is the key verifier thing?

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          Which FW could be recommended?

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          • P [email protected]

            Having control over the OS doesn't help if the OS doesn't understand the app's data.

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            If only there was an AI that monitors everything going on on the device which they could force onto everyone

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            • L [email protected]

              There are functional firewall apps for android? Is Rethink good?

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              Rethink is better than good. It's great.

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                Firewalls are a great way to tell if new apps are secrely installed

                Btw what is the key verifier thing?

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                I uninstalled it on my Samsung last time and just checked but it hasn't reinstalled itself again (yet).

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                • hominine@lemmy.worldH [email protected]

                  So glad I moved to GrapheneOS last month.

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                  Got myself a Pixel 9 pro just to go Graphene... Sold my s24 ultra

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                    Having control over the OS doesn't help if the OS doesn't understand the app's data.

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                    ... the OS doesn't understand the app's data.

                    I assume you are referring to End to End Encrypted (E2EE) messaging apps here. I'm no programmer/developer/software engineer and I'll be the first to admit that I don't know a ton about how most apps work on the backend. That being said, my understanding is that E2EE apps decrypt whatever is being transmitted to them when they get to your device (assuming phone here) (of course it would decrypt it, otherwise how would you make sense of the information?). Once the data is on your phone, it is decrypted. From what I understand, sandboxing apps is not all that robust on Android (at least on "mainstream" versions)

                    Therefore, the data that was Encrypted from End to End was decrypted at the End and therefore accessible by other applications and processes on your phone. Unless Android sandboxing has improved greatly in the last few weeks.

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                    • phase@lemmy.8th.worldP [email protected]

                      Which FW could be recommended?

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                      LineageOS or /e/OS would be my picks. Graphene and Calyx are better, but likely don't support the device in question.

                      RIP DivestOS.

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                      • chillpill@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                        ... the OS doesn't understand the app's data.

                        I assume you are referring to End to End Encrypted (E2EE) messaging apps here. I'm no programmer/developer/software engineer and I'll be the first to admit that I don't know a ton about how most apps work on the backend. That being said, my understanding is that E2EE apps decrypt whatever is being transmitted to them when they get to your device (assuming phone here) (of course it would decrypt it, otherwise how would you make sense of the information?). Once the data is on your phone, it is decrypted. From what I understand, sandboxing apps is not all that robust on Android (at least on "mainstream" versions)

                        Therefore, the data that was Encrypted from End to End was decrypted at the End and therefore accessible by other applications and processes on your phone. Unless Android sandboxing has improved greatly in the last few weeks.

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                        Applications like signal are encrypted at rest on your device as well - https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/277330/how-does-signal-protect-data-on-the-device-from-unauthorized-access

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                        • I [email protected]

                          Firewalls are a great way to tell if new apps are secrely installed

                          Btw what is the key verifier thing?

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                          Bit out of the loop. What am I looking at?

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                            Bit out of the loop. What am I looking at?

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                            Google is automatically installing an app on you phone that analyzes your media β€žto prevent you accidentally viewing nudes”

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                            • hominine@lemmy.worldH [email protected]

                              So glad I moved to GrapheneOS last month.

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                              Does lichess work on graphene os? How is compatibility with classic stuff line firefox, signal, ...?

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                                Does lichess work on graphene os? How is compatibility with classic stuff line firefox, signal, ...?

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                                I play Lichess on my GrapheneOS Pixel6a, works well. Same with Signal, Firefox with several mobile browser extensions.

                                Bitwarden, NewPipe, Tailscale, Duolingo, Uber, Discord, Matrix Element, all the Proton mobile apps, Backblaze, etc etc.

                                Pretty much every app I try works flawlessly. On rare occasion I'll experience minor bugs, and twice I've had to use GOS's extra privilege mode to get an app to work.

                                Overall, Love GrapheneOS and I'll use them as long as they are around and making an awesome alternative to Google's garbage.

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                                • chillpill@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                                  Worried I'm getting a bit too paranoid, but...

                                  Why backdoor the messaging apps when you can just monitor the entire OS?

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                                  If the Apple security decision in the UK is anything to go by as well as the Trump administration in the US pushing hard for government backdoors in cloud storage and messaging apps, which has been asked for for a long time but didn't have much chance of getting past court oversight in the US until the Supreme Court was so corrupted, then likely this is going to be a way that governments can enforce the idea of having encrypted data transmissions to keep data out of the hands of foreign hackers, but still have corporate backdoors that allow governments to access the unencrypted data. That's exactly what the UK said the Apple thing was supposed to help with. Of course data is only as secure as the weakest link and corporations are often much easier targets than individual users anyway. So it has the same result, but it appeases the majority who don't get it.

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                                    Provides a single process that can be used by all message apps so that they don't need to implement backdoors into all of them?

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                                    And with it unified, it's easier to tie multiple online identities back to which one single person they all are.

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                                    • lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.mlL [email protected]

                                      I play Lichess on my GrapheneOS Pixel6a, works well. Same with Signal, Firefox with several mobile browser extensions.

                                      Bitwarden, NewPipe, Tailscale, Duolingo, Uber, Discord, Matrix Element, all the Proton mobile apps, Backblaze, etc etc.

                                      Pretty much every app I try works flawlessly. On rare occasion I'll experience minor bugs, and twice I've had to use GOS's extra privilege mode to get an app to work.

                                      Overall, Love GrapheneOS and I'll use them as long as they are around and making an awesome alternative to Google's garbage.

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                                      Thanks!

                                      Is graphene available on Xiaomi phones?

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                                        Bit out of the loop. What am I looking at?

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                                        Google's secret app that scans your photos for CSAM, but my firewall is configured to autoblock newly installed apps from internet access, thus the notification alerting me an app is trying to access the internet.

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                                        • hominine@lemmy.worldH [email protected]

                                          So glad I moved to GrapheneOS last month.

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                                          Yeah I'm super keen, but my lower-tier Samsung isn't supported. I really wish FairPhone would offer a cheaper option 😞

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