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    Everyone forgets where the German cars, Henry Ford, etc came from politically.

    I was looking into my first EV, and politics just didn’t weigh that much into the decision. Now, the “infotainment as a perpetual service”, that turned me off and away from Tesla. With CarPlay my car dash will never lose service, and will always be free to use with updates from Apple/Google. I can’t imagine why people would ever pay for their infotainment when CarPlay is better or equal in all cases to the alternative.

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    I'm happy with my stereo being a glorified Bluetooth speaker

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    • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

      Musk chased right-wing approval, but the only thing he got was declining sales and a dying brand.

      I mean he got tens of billions of dollars in increased wealth so I dunno if I'd say that.

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      Hundreds.

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        I'm happy with my stereo being a glorified Bluetooth speaker

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        Don't have a working stereo in my 22-yo truck or 23-yo car. Bluetooth speaker it is!

        (I don't generally listen to anything driving. I like to chill and think about life. Which ain't always the wise move.)

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        • O [email protected]

          The full self-driving promise was always a matter of interpretation

          There's nothing to interpret. It does not fully drive itself.

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          Musk is neither a Tesla nor an Edison; he is a Barnum.

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            Don't have a working stereo in my 22-yo truck or 23-yo car. Bluetooth speaker it is!

            (I don't generally listen to anything driving. I like to chill and think about life. Which ain't always the wise move.)

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            Hell yeah. I prob have a 1/3 split between music, podcasts and silence. Silence do be a double edged sword

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            • H [email protected]

              Everyone forgets where the German cars, Henry Ford, etc came from politically.

              I was looking into my first EV, and politics just didn’t weigh that much into the decision. Now, the “infotainment as a perpetual service”, that turned me off and away from Tesla. With CarPlay my car dash will never lose service, and will always be free to use with updates from Apple/Google. I can’t imagine why people would ever pay for their infotainment when CarPlay is better or equal in all cases to the alternative.

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              German cars come from Carl Benz, who built the first automobile in 1885, four years before Hitlers birth.

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                Potential ketamine addiction aside, he's just gravitated toward where he sees more money and unfluence for himself. He wanted the prestige of being a leader in tech, so he used his influence and money to build SpaceX. Then he bullied his way into the ownership of Tesla, desperately wanting to appear as a genius to libertarian and liberal minds alike, but he's never been any less of an authoritarian. When Trump rose to power the first time, he sat and watched and along with the rest of the Silicon Valley Moguls, he began to move himself into positions of influence with populist politicians, borrowing the evangelical right's playbooks and throwing himself into the spotlight no matter the reason. He pivoted off his falsified image as some kind of American self-starter into MAGA rhetoric.

                Musk doesn't have lofty ideals or any real focus on the betterment of society. I don't think he ever did. He just wanted to be a real life Tony Stark and command the influence that came with it. Now he doesn't need to, because he's got Trump in his back pocket and is mostly untouchable by any normal means.

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                I'll never stop laughing when Tony Stark treats Musk as a nobody.

                Iron Man II, "Yeah. Later. Bet Musk is still proud of that cameo.

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                  The popo using cybertrucks would really be the cherry on the techno-feudalist hellscape cake.

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                  Just commit all your crimes in 3cm of snow and you can outrun the cybertruck police with a light jog.

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                  • M [email protected]

                    Temporary plates could be someone moving out of state. Are you sure it was the latest model?

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                    They all look the same I would never be able to tell myself

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                      The popo using cybertrucks would really be the cherry on the techno-feudalist hellscape cake.

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                      Isn't a few cop-shops using Tesla cars now already?

                      I worry how the cars hold up to aggressive driving, after seeing how the truck was pwned so badly by whistlinDiesel .

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                        VWs never randomly caught fire. And also they don't look like if Transformers could somehow breed, but had an abortion.

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                        This.

                        And VWs were survivors, crossing the desert under air cooling and repairable usually with a pair of pliers and a screwdriver.

                        I worry Teslas wouldn't survive long enough to become classics. They don't seem to be survivors.

                        /63+71+71super here.

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                        • sundrei@lemmy.sdf.orgS [email protected]

                          Tesla might have to go on welfare... by having the US government buy, thousands upon thousands of Teslas. 🤮

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                          Problem is that Trump is on the oil companies' pay rolls. Unfortunately he's subsidizing them instead of Tesla.

                          https://www.theverge.com/news/617235/the-gsa-is-shutting-down-its-ev-chargers-calling-them-not-mission-critical

                          https://www.theverge.com/2025/1/22/24349650/trump-ev-tax-credit-tariff-congress

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                            I'll never stop laughing when Tony Stark treats Musk as a nobody.

                            Iron Man II, "Yeah. Later. Bet Musk is still proud of that cameo.

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                            “I think that’s a good idea.”

                            “You do? Then we’ll make it work.”

                            Sick burn

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                            • bishma@discuss.tchncs.deB [email protected]

                              About a week ago I saw a brand new model Y (still had the 90 day temporary plate) sporting one of those "bought before elon..." stickers.

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                              Damn, your temp plates are 90 days? Where do you live?

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                                Like companies getting sued for not advertising on Twitter

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                                That was the joke, yes

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                                  German cars come from Carl Benz, who built the first automobile in 1885, four years before Hitlers birth.

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                                  Not necessarily Carl Benz himself, but the company has been litigated and has been proven to have had ties to the nazi regime. I’m not arguing that Mercedes was founded on Nazi values, I’m just saying there was a connection and a less than stellar history.

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                                  • H [email protected]

                                    Everyone forgets where the German cars, Henry Ford, etc came from politically.

                                    I was looking into my first EV, and politics just didn’t weigh that much into the decision. Now, the “infotainment as a perpetual service”, that turned me off and away from Tesla. With CarPlay my car dash will never lose service, and will always be free to use with updates from Apple/Google. I can’t imagine why people would ever pay for their infotainment when CarPlay is better or equal in all cases to the alternative.

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                                    That said, if Tesla and other brands were equally weighted in my purchase decision, I’d then happily rule Tesla out based on merit.

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                                    • H [email protected]

                                      Everyone forgets where the German cars, Henry Ford, etc came from politically.

                                      I was looking into my first EV, and politics just didn’t weigh that much into the decision. Now, the “infotainment as a perpetual service”, that turned me off and away from Tesla. With CarPlay my car dash will never lose service, and will always be free to use with updates from Apple/Google. I can’t imagine why people would ever pay for their infotainment when CarPlay is better or equal in all cases to the alternative.

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                                      Are either Ford or Mercedes currently run by Nazis? Can the average person on the street name the CEO of either of them?

                                      The problem with Tesla is that everyone hates the guy who has made himself the face of the company at a time when there are plenty of alternatives.

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                                        I've seen an increase in new Teslas where I live, not a decrease.

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                                          Are either Ford or Mercedes currently run by Nazis? Can the average person on the street name the CEO of either of them?

                                          The problem with Tesla is that everyone hates the guy who has made himself the face of the company at a time when there are plenty of alternatives.

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                                          The issue is that the alternatives generally aren’t that much better in a vacuum. Infotainment vs Tesla infotainment (removing the CarPlay merits): It’s not even close, Tesla is like 10-15 years ahead of everything else on the US market in their price range. Car manufacturers famously lock in their tech and designs something like 3 years before public release.

                                          Will there be meaningful software updates for your Kia EV6 in 2028? Absolutely not, no way.

                                          Do you want to tow anything more than 1000Kg? Good luck outside of Tesla.

                                          NACS? Not one single other car available yet.

                                          Do you want a dashcam? Rivian is the only other brand, IIRC.

                                          I’m not apologizing for Tesla, but it’s really painful how awfulall other cars are compared to the competition.

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