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  • B [email protected]

    You're right, that's not just technically untrue. The board voted with their wallet, by giving him even more money than ever, so he could continue doing what he is doing.
    The people on the board wouldn't give a shit if only Nazis buy their cars, as long as there's enough of them to keep buying.

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    Well joke's on them though, because it seems Musk has found a way to tap US citizens directly, so he probably doesn't even care much about Tesla anymore now that it is failing.

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      I believe this is the part where we get sued for not buying his cars.

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      Like companies getting sued for not advertising on Twitter

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      • E [email protected]

        8% drop in car sales isn't great but I think the article is overselling the idea that the company is straight up dying. (Sadly) Most people just don't make a connection between how they spend their money and the politics of the people they prop up.

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        Tesla is definitely dying unless they can turn this around quickly.
        Surplus capacity is expensive, and I bet they are already operating at a loss. And turning around a bad reputation is hard.
        Their models are dated, the cheap Tesla is cancelled, and the model Y has already lost a lot of popularity, so even a new mode already said to be mostly a facelift, is unlikely to make a huge difference.
        The drop in January in EU is 50%, and they are losing market share in China and USA too. So I think the actual drop is higher now than 88%.
        Note that for Nissan a 5% drop last year was called catastrophic!! And they are way bigger than Tesla.

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          Everyone forgets where the German cars, Henry Ford, etc came from politically.

          I was looking into my first EV, and politics just didn’t weigh that much into the decision. Now, the “infotainment as a perpetual service”, that turned me off and away from Tesla. With CarPlay my car dash will never lose service, and will always be free to use with updates from Apple/Google. I can’t imagine why people would ever pay for their infotainment when CarPlay is better or equal in all cases to the alternative.

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          I'm happy with my stereo being a glorified Bluetooth speaker

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          • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

            Musk chased right-wing approval, but the only thing he got was declining sales and a dying brand.

            I mean he got tens of billions of dollars in increased wealth so I dunno if I'd say that.

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            Hundreds.

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              I'm happy with my stereo being a glorified Bluetooth speaker

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              Don't have a working stereo in my 22-yo truck or 23-yo car. Bluetooth speaker it is!

              (I don't generally listen to anything driving. I like to chill and think about life. Which ain't always the wise move.)

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                The full self-driving promise was always a matter of interpretation

                There's nothing to interpret. It does not fully drive itself.

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                Musk is neither a Tesla nor an Edison; he is a Barnum.

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                  Don't have a working stereo in my 22-yo truck or 23-yo car. Bluetooth speaker it is!

                  (I don't generally listen to anything driving. I like to chill and think about life. Which ain't always the wise move.)

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                  Hell yeah. I prob have a 1/3 split between music, podcasts and silence. Silence do be a double edged sword

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                    Everyone forgets where the German cars, Henry Ford, etc came from politically.

                    I was looking into my first EV, and politics just didn’t weigh that much into the decision. Now, the “infotainment as a perpetual service”, that turned me off and away from Tesla. With CarPlay my car dash will never lose service, and will always be free to use with updates from Apple/Google. I can’t imagine why people would ever pay for their infotainment when CarPlay is better or equal in all cases to the alternative.

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                    German cars come from Carl Benz, who built the first automobile in 1885, four years before Hitlers birth.

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                      Potential ketamine addiction aside, he's just gravitated toward where he sees more money and unfluence for himself. He wanted the prestige of being a leader in tech, so he used his influence and money to build SpaceX. Then he bullied his way into the ownership of Tesla, desperately wanting to appear as a genius to libertarian and liberal minds alike, but he's never been any less of an authoritarian. When Trump rose to power the first time, he sat and watched and along with the rest of the Silicon Valley Moguls, he began to move himself into positions of influence with populist politicians, borrowing the evangelical right's playbooks and throwing himself into the spotlight no matter the reason. He pivoted off his falsified image as some kind of American self-starter into MAGA rhetoric.

                      Musk doesn't have lofty ideals or any real focus on the betterment of society. I don't think he ever did. He just wanted to be a real life Tony Stark and command the influence that came with it. Now he doesn't need to, because he's got Trump in his back pocket and is mostly untouchable by any normal means.

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                      I'll never stop laughing when Tony Stark treats Musk as a nobody.

                      Iron Man II, "Yeah. Later. Bet Musk is still proud of that cameo.

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                        The popo using cybertrucks would really be the cherry on the techno-feudalist hellscape cake.

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                        Just commit all your crimes in 3cm of snow and you can outrun the cybertruck police with a light jog.

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                        • M [email protected]

                          Temporary plates could be someone moving out of state. Are you sure it was the latest model?

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                          They all look the same I would never be able to tell myself

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                            The popo using cybertrucks would really be the cherry on the techno-feudalist hellscape cake.

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                            Isn't a few cop-shops using Tesla cars now already?

                            I worry how the cars hold up to aggressive driving, after seeing how the truck was pwned so badly by whistlinDiesel .

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                              VWs never randomly caught fire. And also they don't look like if Transformers could somehow breed, but had an abortion.

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                              This.

                              And VWs were survivors, crossing the desert under air cooling and repairable usually with a pair of pliers and a screwdriver.

                              I worry Teslas wouldn't survive long enough to become classics. They don't seem to be survivors.

                              /63+71+71super here.

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                              • sundrei@lemmy.sdf.orgS [email protected]

                                Tesla might have to go on welfare... by having the US government buy, thousands upon thousands of Teslas. 🤮

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                                Problem is that Trump is on the oil companies' pay rolls. Unfortunately he's subsidizing them instead of Tesla.

                                https://www.theverge.com/news/617235/the-gsa-is-shutting-down-its-ev-chargers-calling-them-not-mission-critical

                                https://www.theverge.com/2025/1/22/24349650/trump-ev-tax-credit-tariff-congress

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                                  I'll never stop laughing when Tony Stark treats Musk as a nobody.

                                  Iron Man II, "Yeah. Later. Bet Musk is still proud of that cameo.

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                                  “I think that’s a good idea.”

                                  “You do? Then we’ll make it work.”

                                  Sick burn

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                                  • bishma@discuss.tchncs.deB [email protected]

                                    About a week ago I saw a brand new model Y (still had the 90 day temporary plate) sporting one of those "bought before elon..." stickers.

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                                    Damn, your temp plates are 90 days? Where do you live?

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                                      Like companies getting sued for not advertising on Twitter

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                                      That was the joke, yes

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                                        German cars come from Carl Benz, who built the first automobile in 1885, four years before Hitlers birth.

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                                        Not necessarily Carl Benz himself, but the company has been litigated and has been proven to have had ties to the nazi regime. I’m not arguing that Mercedes was founded on Nazi values, I’m just saying there was a connection and a less than stellar history.

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                                          Everyone forgets where the German cars, Henry Ford, etc came from politically.

                                          I was looking into my first EV, and politics just didn’t weigh that much into the decision. Now, the “infotainment as a perpetual service”, that turned me off and away from Tesla. With CarPlay my car dash will never lose service, and will always be free to use with updates from Apple/Google. I can’t imagine why people would ever pay for their infotainment when CarPlay is better or equal in all cases to the alternative.

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                                          That said, if Tesla and other brands were equally weighted in my purchase decision, I’d then happily rule Tesla out based on merit.

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