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What Pseudoscience do you Believe?

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  • allo@sh.itjust.worksA [email protected]

    Came across a list of pseudosciences and was fun seeing where im woo woo.

    Lunar effect – the belief that the full Moon influences human and animal behavior.

    Ley Lines

    Accupressure/puncture

    Ayurveda

    Body Memory

    Faith healing

    Anyway, list too long to read. I guess Im quite the nonscientific woowoomancer. How about you? What pseudoscience do you believe? Also I believe nearly every stone i find was an ancient indian stone. Also manifesting and or prayer to manipulate via subconscious aligning the future.

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    Maybe like a limited Gaia hypothesis. The whole planet is a conscious thing, we are its braincells and its hands.

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      Modern geocentrism

      kinda. It's more that "center" of the universe can be picked completely arbitrarily. I can say I'm the center of the universe, and when I spin on my chair, the universe revolves around me. You can define the frame of reference however you wish to. The change of perspective does not change how orbits work.

      Lunar effect – the belief that the full Moon influences human and animal behavior.

      by that short definition sure, but probably not how they mean. If you're active at night, the amount of ambient light is surely going to impact your behavior. Not so much in areas with artificial lighting.

      Memetics.

      Insofar as there are self-replicating ideas, and the ones more likely to self-replicate become more prevalent...sure. Not the whole story either, as ideas can also be pushed by people that don't believe those ideas.

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      Memetics is not really pseudoscience. It was science, there there were compelling evidence and arguemtns that ideas have no agency on their own, contrary to genes, and the whole field died for good.

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        If it’s not provable by science, then I don’t believe it.

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        Science cannot even prove itself as a method. Science is just spicy epistemology.

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        • allo@sh.itjust.worksA [email protected]

          Came across a list of pseudosciences and was fun seeing where im woo woo.

          Lunar effect – the belief that the full Moon influences human and animal behavior.

          Ley Lines

          Accupressure/puncture

          Ayurveda

          Body Memory

          Faith healing

          Anyway, list too long to read. I guess Im quite the nonscientific woowoomancer. How about you? What pseudoscience do you believe? Also I believe nearly every stone i find was an ancient indian stone. Also manifesting and or prayer to manipulate via subconscious aligning the future.

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          ITT: very little pseudoscience. It's pseudoscience only when you try to pass something non-scientific as science (understood in the modernist sense). There are plenty of systems of knowledge that are outside of science and don't really care about passing as science when making statements about the world: metaphysics, theology, cybernetics, open systems theory, and so forth. Those are not pseudosciences.

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          • chaoscruiser@futurology.todayC [email protected]

            Amazing! I need to check how many of my cables actually follow this rule.

            Also, the socket side tends to be aligned in a particular way, but it won't work with all manufacturers. I recall seeing some laptops that had their USB-A sockets upside down. Oh, and desktops too! Those sockets are usually vertical, and facing a wall, so it's anyone's guess which way is right.

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            Towards the back of the machine normally counts as up for upwards-facing sockets, unless it's a case with feet on the side, in which case it'll be away from those feet so the sockets would be the right way up if it were sideways and on the alternative feet.

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              Although anyone who works in an ER will tell you the full moon is the busiest night; the occurrence rate of every issue but murder goes up.

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              My mother is a career nurse and swears by this and I’m inclined to believe her. I’d love to see if numbers actually back it up or whether it’s sort of confirmation bias.

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              • allo@sh.itjust.worksA [email protected]

                Came across a list of pseudosciences and was fun seeing where im woo woo.

                Lunar effect – the belief that the full Moon influences human and animal behavior.

                Ley Lines

                Accupressure/puncture

                Ayurveda

                Body Memory

                Faith healing

                Anyway, list too long to read. I guess Im quite the nonscientific woowoomancer. How about you? What pseudoscience do you believe? Also I believe nearly every stone i find was an ancient indian stone. Also manifesting and or prayer to manipulate via subconscious aligning the future.

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                Not sure either of these counts fully as what OP is looking for, but -

                The idea of the technological singularity feels right to me. There's a whole section on the wikipedia page about scientific objections to it, and I get that, but if we don't kill ourselves before then, it seems like an event that almost has to occur at some point, to me. And maybe it zigs instead of zags and we get star trek. Or maybe it zags and we get terminator. But probably neither of those I'm guessing, and these days it's hard to imagine that it would put humanity on a worse trajectory than we seem to be on today.

                Similarly, but less seriously (for me) I like to consider the whole "maybe we're in a simulation" theory.

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                  Of course, we could all be living in the matrix and nothing is real.

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                  Correct.

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                  • allo@sh.itjust.worksA [email protected]

                    Came across a list of pseudosciences and was fun seeing where im woo woo.

                    Lunar effect – the belief that the full Moon influences human and animal behavior.

                    Ley Lines

                    Accupressure/puncture

                    Ayurveda

                    Body Memory

                    Faith healing

                    Anyway, list too long to read. I guess Im quite the nonscientific woowoomancer. How about you? What pseudoscience do you believe? Also I believe nearly every stone i find was an ancient indian stone. Also manifesting and or prayer to manipulate via subconscious aligning the future.

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                    It's hard resisting the power of the moon.

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                    • joelfromaus@aussie.zoneJ [email protected]

                      My mother is a career nurse and swears by this and I’m inclined to believe her. I’d love to see if numbers actually back it up or whether it’s sort of confirmation bias.

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                      Not murder, but I'll be damned if as a teacher and parent kids aren't wackier during the full moon.

                      Also, sugar doesn't cause hyperactivity. Who ever doesn't think that can teach for me on Halloween

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                        It's hard resisting the power of the moon.

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                        Especially if you work on a boat, by the coast.

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                          Before she passed my Nan had chronic arthritis. She had many joint replacements (both hips, a knee, shoulder, pins in her wrists etc) and without medication life was a misery.

                          One thing she said gave her genuine relief was acupuncture, and she wasn't into pseudoscience at all. Maybe is was a placebo effect and it was expensive but it was worthwhile for her.

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                          I've heard a few people say acupuncture has helped them. And saw an interesting thread on Lemmy or Reddit sometime with people citing papers against each other that it's evidenced or not.

                          My guess so far is that it genuinely helps sometimes - perhaps via the nervous system, which is something scientific medicine still knows little about (compared to many other areas of medicine) - but some practitioners do it well and others not, and sometimes it works and sometimes not, and without scientific analysis and regulation it's hard to know which.

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                            I think that currently society is too polar about this issue. A lot of so-called pseudoscience have a lot of anecdotal evidence that should be taken into consideration and don't have a lot of science to deny them. On the other hand a lot of them do have that so there is an issue where there's a lot of people who believe a lot of different pseudosciences because some of them genuinely seem to have results but the people who go explicitly by scientific research sometimes can group all of these together. For example, homeopathy is obviously bullshit, and there is a ton of scientific research that shows that. But, for example, a lot of Chinese medicine, which has no scientific backing, does seem to have a lot of anecdotal and historical evidence that suggests that if science does look into it, they might find some actual results.

                            I don't know what lunar effect is, but the description you gave sounds very plausible. Like, why wouldn't a full moon affect the behavior of humans and other animals? How it affects them? To what degree? Sure, that's debatable. But generally affecting them, that sounds reasonable. It's a significant change in the night. It lights up the night more and It wouldn't be a stretch to assume that some animals might use it as time management indicators that might relate to biological cycles.

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                            Right. There's a mix in lots of ideas, of interpreting real evidence and experience, and of making up rubbish to sell things. And just of building too big of a theory off minimal data and putting too much trust in it.

                            So, moonlight being a major factor to change your behaviour to evil or crazy, is presumably nonsense. But, as you say, moonlit nights affecting human behaviour, such as having social events on a moonlit night, or even working later in the fields those nights, is obvious.

                            And the phase of the moon causing programming bugs? Absolutely real. There's one or two documented cases.

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                              How else would you explain the Lunar effect?

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                              Made up by lunatics.

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                                Not sure either of these counts fully as what OP is looking for, but -

                                The idea of the technological singularity feels right to me. There's a whole section on the wikipedia page about scientific objections to it, and I get that, but if we don't kill ourselves before then, it seems like an event that almost has to occur at some point, to me. And maybe it zigs instead of zags and we get star trek. Or maybe it zags and we get terminator. But probably neither of those I'm guessing, and these days it's hard to imagine that it would put humanity on a worse trajectory than we seem to be on today.

                                Similarly, but less seriously (for me) I like to consider the whole "maybe we're in a simulation" theory.

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                                Yeah I kinda adhere to the simulation thing too. As a videogames programmer, every time I try to learn about quantum mechanics I learn about some new quirk that really makes it sound like some game engine limitation

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                                  Modern geocentrism

                                  kinda. It's more that "center" of the universe can be picked completely arbitrarily. I can say I'm the center of the universe, and when I spin on my chair, the universe revolves around me. You can define the frame of reference however you wish to. The change of perspective does not change how orbits work.

                                  Lunar effect – the belief that the full Moon influences human and animal behavior.

                                  by that short definition sure, but probably not how they mean. If you're active at night, the amount of ambient light is surely going to impact your behavior. Not so much in areas with artificial lighting.

                                  Memetics.

                                  Insofar as there are self-replicating ideas, and the ones more likely to self-replicate become more prevalent...sure. Not the whole story either, as ideas can also be pushed by people that don't believe those ideas.

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                                  "center" of the universe can be picked completely arbitrarily.

                                  IIRC there are still theories within the scientific community of the universe being non-homogenous and roughly geocentric. Usually (when I've come across them) presumed to be incorrect, but still possible in a, "huh, that would explain the data that we can't otherwise explain" way.

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                                    Cryptozoology. There are definitely creatures unknown to science. Dozens of new ones are discovered every day. Loch Ness monster - no. Unknown ape - possibly.

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                                    I still like the thought that the Loch Ness monster was real, but died out. That legends grew from the real thing, and occasional real sightings, then popularized with more recent faked evidence.

                                    Of course that doesn't mean it probably was real, just it might have been.

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                                    • capriciousday@lemmy.mlC [email protected]

                                      Maybe like a limited Gaia hypothesis. The whole planet is a conscious thing, we are its braincells and its hands.

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                                      In that theory we'd more be the cancer-cells rather than braincells 😏

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                                        According to Feng Shui, cacti are not suitable as home plants. Ergo Feng Shui is evil.

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                                        I mean, if you brush against their spikes every time you walk into the living room, you'd decry them as unsuitable too!

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                                        • allo@sh.itjust.worksA [email protected]

                                          Came across a list of pseudosciences and was fun seeing where im woo woo.

                                          Lunar effect – the belief that the full Moon influences human and animal behavior.

                                          Ley Lines

                                          Accupressure/puncture

                                          Ayurveda

                                          Body Memory

                                          Faith healing

                                          Anyway, list too long to read. I guess Im quite the nonscientific woowoomancer. How about you? What pseudoscience do you believe? Also I believe nearly every stone i find was an ancient indian stone. Also manifesting and or prayer to manipulate via subconscious aligning the future.

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                                          That wiki article is very biased.

                                          It also has problems distinguishing pseudo medicine (proven not to work) from alternative medicine (not conclusively proved or disproved).

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