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I derusted a vise left by the previous tenant of the house

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    It is more just the difference between UK English and US English, nothing wrong with using either of them this is just one of those things that I wasn't aware had a different spelling until today.

    It is like tyres - UK or tires - US. Tires looks wrong to me because I grew up using tyres but they are both valid spellings of the word.

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    Hmm, looks like it's the US spelling for a gripping tool, whereas UK uses vice for both a personal failing or a bad habit, and a gripping tool. I'm most familiar with US spelling since I learned most of my English from video games and TV shows as wee lad.

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    • ikidd@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

      You might find naval jelly at a marine supply store, I think Permatex makes a version. The Eastwood stuff might have to be purchased at an commercial auto paint store.

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      After some research, apparently my local auto store does sell a store brand rust removal gel. As a bonus, in my local language it's apparently called "Rust eater".

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        After some research, apparently my local auto store does sell a store brand rust removal gel. As a bonus, in my local language it's apparently called "Rust eater".

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        Cool. Keep in mind, this is @ 20% phosphoric acid and sometimes a bit of hydrochloric as well, you don't want to get it on paint or concrete. But it works a treat, if it's thin enough you can get it into a spray bottle or water it down a bit if you need.

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          Cool. Keep in mind, this is @ 20% phosphoric acid and sometimes a bit of hydrochloric as well, you don't want to get it on paint or concrete. But it works a treat, if it's thin enough you can get it into a spray bottle or water it down a bit if you need.

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          I will keep this advice in mind the next time I need to derust something. Thank you very much. Bought a house from the 80's from a family of the previous owner, and they left a whole bunch of potentially good tools and other stuff in there.

          A badly maintained, clogged, greasy electric chainsaw is on my list of things to open up, clean and lube up as well. Looking forward to that, as a mainly electronics guy, I only very recently started doing mechanical engineering. Opened up a fan that had a hard time turning, found out there were no bearings, just a rod acting as the iron core inside a DC motor. Disassembled, applied generous amounts of acetone to relevant parts, dried it up and greased it up. Worked like a charm afterwards, and didn't even lose any screws.

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            I had no free buckets to hold the derusting solution in that the vise would fit comfortably, so I had to use a plastic box that was too wide. It would not submerge fully in the 1 Liter of derusting solution I bought, I had to soak one side for 24 hours and then the other side for 24 hours. It mostly cleared the rust. I'm considering painting it now, but I don't think I'm going to.

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            Your mistake was buying derusting solution. Just use vinegar with some salt.

            .... Unless that was your derusting solution, then your mistake was not buying more vinegar.

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              I had no free buckets to hold the derusting solution in that the vise would fit comfortably, so I had to use a plastic box that was too wide. It would not submerge fully in the 1 Liter of derusting solution I bought, I had to soak one side for 24 hours and then the other side for 24 hours. It mostly cleared the rust. I'm considering painting it now, but I don't think I'm going to.

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              You should definitely paint all the surfaces that aren't machined, as that's very likely how it would have been originally.

              Also, what's dull about restoring a tool? There are entire YouTube channels devoted to it that are pretty darn popular. (Or so I'm told, as I would surely not watch something so dull myself. <AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet.jpg>)

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                You should definitely paint all the surfaces that aren't machined, as that's very likely how it would have been originally.

                Also, what's dull about restoring a tool? There are entire YouTube channels devoted to it that are pretty darn popular. (Or so I'm told, as I would surely not watch something so dull myself. <AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet.jpg>)

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                I am sincerely apologetic of posting content that you found not to be dull enough. I will try to be better in the future. Tool restoration indeed is interesting, but I thought merely soaking a tool in deruster for days would be dull enough 😞

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                  It is more just the difference between UK English and US English, nothing wrong with using either of them this is just one of those things that I wasn't aware had a different spelling until today.

                  It is like tyres - UK or tires - US. Tires looks wrong to me because I grew up using tyres but they are both valid spellings of the word.

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                  I suspect we can thank Daniel Webster for trying to simplify spellings. I'm still not sure how I feel about it - I find some words make better sense spelled in the British way, like "behaviour", but I also appreciate the vice homonym spellings.

                  At least the [vice](vice Etymology of vice by etymonline
                  https://www.etymonline.com/word/vice#7762) / vise spellings make sense etymologically - they have separate Latin origins (see links). I can't explain why British English doesn't make this distinction, especially since they were different in Old French and Anglo-French.

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                    Your mistake was buying derusting solution. Just use vinegar with some salt.

                    .... Unless that was your derusting solution, then your mistake was not buying more vinegar.

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                    I've been using vinegar for this for most of my life but have never added salt. Does that speed it up, or help in some other way?

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                      I've been using vinegar for this for most of my life but have never added salt. Does that speed it up, or help in some other way?

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                      I don't actually know if it helps at all. Vinegar on its own also seems to work.

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                        I had no free buckets to hold the derusting solution in that the vise would fit comfortably, so I had to use a plastic box that was too wide. It would not submerge fully in the 1 Liter of derusting solution I bought, I had to soak one side for 24 hours and then the other side for 24 hours. It mostly cleared the rust. I'm considering painting it now, but I don't think I'm going to.

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                        Probably want to oil it so it doesn't get rusty again.

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                        • dumblederp@aussie.zoneD [email protected]

                          Probably want to oil it so it doesn't get rusty again.

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                          I did in the end end up painting it a nice blue colour with a rust protect metallic paint. First layer looked awful, second layer looked quite nice already, but I'm gonna add a third one today. The paint can recommended 3 layers for proper rust proof, so that's what I'm going by.

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