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Are people in the US aware that they are now definitely a rogue state, or is this fact simply covered up by the usual patriotism?

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  • dandomrude@lemmy.worldD [email protected]
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    Depends. Everyone who voted against Trump knows this and it’s probably why they did but most non voters and maga are still ignorant.

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      The Biden administration aided and abbetted genocide. The American monoparty would be proceeding exactly as planned under genocide Harris as it is doing now, just slightly more slowly.

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      BoTH sIDes ARe tHe SaMe!!!1!

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        Nope, because most US voters never crossed their county line.

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        honestly, that's bullshit. i dunno if i'm just taking something too literally here, but no.

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          BoTH sIDes ARe tHe SaMe!!!1!

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          Now you're getting it!

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            No "average" person is aware because they are too busy trying to just survive. Nobody wants to chance losing what they've worked so hard for. The only people who watch the news are seniors and disabled people, and they're being misled if they just watch TV news.

            People who call themselves Republicans are happy with what's going on. People who call themselves Democrat are not happy but think they need to work within the system to solve the issues and wait until the next election. Libertarians have sided with the Republicans. Socialism is still a taboo way of thinking for the most part here.

            Then you have disabled people (like me) who are watching what is happening in horror and have sky high anxiety wondering if they're next to be disappeared or homeless. I can stand for maybe 30 minutes at most, holding a sign maybe 15 minutes at most. So I'm doing what I can and that is trying to live as if things are "normal" to continue on my mental health recovery and sobriety journey at the same time being horrified and terrified of what's to come. It's a weird duality that I don't like. I told my therapist the other day that I have hope for the future for my recovery but I have lost all hope in what is going on politically and in the news.

            A lot of this I also blame on false American beliefs fed to us in school that we were safe from all of this nonsense because of our constitution. The American Dream and all that B.S. They sugar-coat our history as a country in schools -- at least they did when I went to school in the 80's/90's, I don't know about now. It's as if America only has a rosy history, even the Civil War is glorified in false narratives.

            It's easy to see how we got to this point as a country. The question is, how do we get ourselves out of it?

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            Whatever the answer is, it's going to take years if not decades. I wish I had the answers. I wish I had the power to make things right. I wish I could stop the suffering. All I can do is do what I can. For now, that's surviving. For now, all I can do is continue to be kind to people and educate them when I can. Help them when I have the ability to.

            My fellow disabled person, I see you. A murmur can become a tidal wave with time. We must stick together. We cannot lose hope. We must go on.

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              Now you're getting it!

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              Ah, I was mocking you. Kind of makes it less fun when I have to explain it, but considering my audience it's to be expected.

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                Depends. Everyone who voted against Trump knows this and it’s probably why they did but most non voters and maga are still ignorant.

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                The last administration proposed sanctioning the ICC

                https://www.reuters.com/world/us/blinken-says-hell-work-with-us-congress-respond-icc-move-gaza-2024-05-21/

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                  Many Americans are unaware of the problems due to media censorship.

                  However they're creating so many problems that even those with blinders on are seeing this shit.

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                    The last administration proposed sanctioning the ICC

                    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/blinken-says-hell-work-with-us-congress-respond-icc-move-gaza-2024-05-21/

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                    We have first past the past voting here, this means we don’t vote based on who we like but rather who is the lesser of two evils.

                    Bad as that is, if you think it could be better without some serious changes here, you’re wrong, unfortunately.

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                      We’re aware. People who get all their news from Fox or ignore politics in general probably aren’t but even my conservative family members are embarrassed about the threats to Canada and Greenland. Canadians are generally considered super nice and polite by Americans so pissing then off crossed a line.

                      There’s elections in several states today that will provide some data to know more. Louisiana had an election on Saturday and rejected 4 constitutional amendments supported by Republicans. None even got 40%. Louisiana is an oddball state so I’m not sure it’s a harbinger of today’s elections but if voters in Wisconsin and elsewhere vote like Louisiana, it’ll be very telling.

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                      Canadians are generally considered super nice and polite by Americans

                      That’s actually a common misconception. We aren’t really all that nice. We just do passive aggressive really, really well.

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                        We been a rogue state for 100 years

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                          The phrase "rogue state" to me always just sorta meant "uncooperative with the United States," which the United States can't be. I'm sure there's a more useful definition.

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                            Depends. Everyone who voted against Trump knows this and it’s probably why they did but most non voters and maga are still ignorant.

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                            The irony is that had the previous administration followed what Obama and Clinton and every other previous administration did on the border topic, they would have won in a landslide. But now the corruption of the last few years is being revealed and it'll be interesting to see the fallout over the next few years.

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                              Some of us are aware. We tend to also be the ones who know this only ends in some kind of revolution. No dictator has even chosen to give up power.

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                                In the Los Angeles Mexican community no one is fucking aware. In the Chicago black community no one is fucking aware. I'm sick of the people in this shit hole. They are happy as long as they have their bread and circus, no matter what.

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                                In the Chicago black community

                                I'm sorry, what‽ As a black Chicagoan, no the Hell we aren't.

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                                  Canadians are generally considered super nice and polite by Americans

                                  That’s actually a common misconception. We aren’t really all that nice. We just do passive aggressive really, really well.

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                                  I will accept passive aggression. A lot of people don’t bother with the passive.

                                  I don’t know what our reputation is globally but I live in a tourist city (New Orleans). A lot of people don’t even bother with the passive part. Most “tier 1” conference cities are huge but we’re a relatively small city. We have a population of about 350,000 (compared to over 8 million in New York City) but enough hotel space and a conference center, stadium, whatever able to host a global event. The Super Bowl was just here and Taylor Swift had three shows. Those were known events but there will be weekends where you go downtown and meet 20 exterminators or something before you realize the exterminator convention is in town. (This actually happened to me. There are so many more exterminators than you could ever imagine.)

                                  We host a lot of events and, as a result, even people who can’t afford travel meet people from everywhere. My high school friend is a bartender and he’ll have random hatred of places and professions because they’re obnoxious or don’t tip or whatever. To this day, he loves Hawaii residents because they had a football game here once and everyone was chill and nice.

                                  Anyway, I say all that to say: Canadians are more than welcome to be passive aggressive here. South Louisiana in general is more aggressive than passive.

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                                    The phrase "rogue state" to me always just sorta meant "uncooperative with the United States," which the United States can't be. I'm sure there's a more useful definition.

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                                    Honestly? I think the US can be uncooperative with itself. At this point, nothing would really surprise me.

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                                      We’re aware. People who get all their news from Fox or ignore politics in general probably aren’t but even my conservative family members are embarrassed about the threats to Canada and Greenland. Canadians are generally considered super nice and polite by Americans so pissing then off crossed a line.

                                      There’s elections in several states today that will provide some data to know more. Louisiana had an election on Saturday and rejected 4 constitutional amendments supported by Republicans. None even got 40%. Louisiana is an oddball state so I’m not sure it’s a harbinger of today’s elections but if voters in Wisconsin and elsewhere vote like Louisiana, it’ll be very telling.

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                                      https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/01/us/politics/wisconsin-supreme-court-crawford-schimel.html

                                      Update: Eat can eat 1,001 dicks.

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                                        Once it’s all tallied, something like $100 million will be spent on a single state’s judicial election. That is insane. Ten million would have been insane just a decade ago.

                                        I imagine that’s why things are close. A lot of voters are being bombarded with (mis)information. The people who are undecided probably have no idea what’s true or false.

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                                        Remember that time Elon Musk spent millions of dollars and lost? It was today and it was really funny.
                                        https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/01/us/politics/wisconsin-supreme-court-crawford-schimel.html

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                                          Remember that time Elon Musk spent millions of dollars and lost? It was today and it was really funny.
                                          https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/01/us/politics/wisconsin-supreme-court-crawford-schimel.html

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                                          Gift link: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/01/us/politics/wisconsin-supreme-court-crawford-schimel.html?unlocked_article_code=1.8k4.-Dt4.yJjPB0QbgpFy

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