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    right now I'm trying a dedicated Jellyfin instance for audio only (bought the lifetime emby subscription before i learned about jellyfin, so video is elsewhere) but having trouble finding a good client that could run on the guts of an old autonomic MMS2A. That device has an analog and digital output, which with the normal OS treated as two separate sources. is that something anyone else has tinkered with? the original plan was to just run a kodi instance with the jellyfin addon, but im not sure if this has the horsepower to run kodi, and certainly not two at once! (4gb of ram max for this beast.

    i need it to be remotely controllable, it'd be cool to have easy playlist management/backup that other devices could see, and potentially an android client if possible?

    I've dabbled with the "____sonic" ecosystem back before i was really good at linux, and struggled a bunch, before giving up without anything real to show for it.

    just curious if anyone else has been down this road successfully!

    thanks for this community, my scrolling stops INSTANTLY when i see a post from here.

    (oh my music server is a truenas SMB share, hosted in a proxmox vm! not opposed to putting a big SSD in this device if local music would make things easier)

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    @SidewaysHighways @selfhosted I use navidrome which is incredibly solid and boring in a good way. Playsub or Amperfy as iOS client, web or supersonic for desktop.

    If you want to stick to jellyfin, Manet is probably the best client for music

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      right now I'm trying a dedicated Jellyfin instance for audio only (bought the lifetime emby subscription before i learned about jellyfin, so video is elsewhere) but having trouble finding a good client that could run on the guts of an old autonomic MMS2A. That device has an analog and digital output, which with the normal OS treated as two separate sources. is that something anyone else has tinkered with? the original plan was to just run a kodi instance with the jellyfin addon, but im not sure if this has the horsepower to run kodi, and certainly not two at once! (4gb of ram max for this beast.

      i need it to be remotely controllable, it'd be cool to have easy playlist management/backup that other devices could see, and potentially an android client if possible?

      I've dabbled with the "____sonic" ecosystem back before i was really good at linux, and struggled a bunch, before giving up without anything real to show for it.

      just curious if anyone else has been down this road successfully!

      thanks for this community, my scrolling stops INSTANTLY when i see a post from here.

      (oh my music server is a truenas SMB share, hosted in a proxmox vm! not opposed to putting a big SSD in this device if local music would make things easier)

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      Navidrome server, symfonium on android is amazing. I also use maloja and multi-scrobbler to caoture plays from multiple sources and keep a in-house record of my plays.

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      • a@91268476.xyzA [email protected]

        @solrize @SidewaysHighways @selfhosted this is a sad, boomer take, is not even funny.

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        I just don't get it, I've seen people struggle with itunes, that stuff is way too complicated and I don't see any need for it. Maybe I'm missing something but if I want to play some music and it's in a file, saying "play this file" seems about as direct as it gets.

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          right now I'm trying a dedicated Jellyfin instance for audio only (bought the lifetime emby subscription before i learned about jellyfin, so video is elsewhere) but having trouble finding a good client that could run on the guts of an old autonomic MMS2A. That device has an analog and digital output, which with the normal OS treated as two separate sources. is that something anyone else has tinkered with? the original plan was to just run a kodi instance with the jellyfin addon, but im not sure if this has the horsepower to run kodi, and certainly not two at once! (4gb of ram max for this beast.

          i need it to be remotely controllable, it'd be cool to have easy playlist management/backup that other devices could see, and potentially an android client if possible?

          I've dabbled with the "____sonic" ecosystem back before i was really good at linux, and struggled a bunch, before giving up without anything real to show for it.

          just curious if anyone else has been down this road successfully!

          thanks for this community, my scrolling stops INSTANTLY when i see a post from here.

          (oh my music server is a truenas SMB share, hosted in a proxmox vm! not opposed to putting a big SSD in this device if local music would make things easier)

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          I'm a very satisfied #jellyfin user. I have my music and movie files shared there. I use different clients: a rpi 5 with kodi and jellydin plugin; an old RPI B with volumio; in android, finamp and also share with dlna.

          @SidewaysHighways @selfhosted

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          • S [email protected]

            right now I'm trying a dedicated Jellyfin instance for audio only (bought the lifetime emby subscription before i learned about jellyfin, so video is elsewhere) but having trouble finding a good client that could run on the guts of an old autonomic MMS2A. That device has an analog and digital output, which with the normal OS treated as two separate sources. is that something anyone else has tinkered with? the original plan was to just run a kodi instance with the jellyfin addon, but im not sure if this has the horsepower to run kodi, and certainly not two at once! (4gb of ram max for this beast.

            i need it to be remotely controllable, it'd be cool to have easy playlist management/backup that other devices could see, and potentially an android client if possible?

            I've dabbled with the "____sonic" ecosystem back before i was really good at linux, and struggled a bunch, before giving up without anything real to show for it.

            just curious if anyone else has been down this road successfully!

            thanks for this community, my scrolling stops INSTANTLY when i see a post from here.

            (oh my music server is a truenas SMB share, hosted in a proxmox vm! not opposed to putting a big SSD in this device if local music would make things easier)

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            All my music is stored in a folder on my NAS, broken down by artist, release. It can be accessed via SMB, SFTP, Jellyfin and Plex. From there I stream to what ever device I'm using. Wireguard, Tailscale or Plex is required to stream outside my home. Navidrome sounds interesting.

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            • S [email protected]

              I just don't get it, I've seen people struggle with itunes, that stuff is way too complicated and I don't see any need for it. Maybe I'm missing something but if I want to play some music and it's in a file, saying "play this file" seems about as direct as it gets.

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              @solrize @selfhosted assuming you have the file in the same machine you want to listen to it, and you are the only one who wants to access it, sure that is fine

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                right now I'm trying a dedicated Jellyfin instance for audio only (bought the lifetime emby subscription before i learned about jellyfin, so video is elsewhere) but having trouble finding a good client that could run on the guts of an old autonomic MMS2A. That device has an analog and digital output, which with the normal OS treated as two separate sources. is that something anyone else has tinkered with? the original plan was to just run a kodi instance with the jellyfin addon, but im not sure if this has the horsepower to run kodi, and certainly not two at once! (4gb of ram max for this beast.

                i need it to be remotely controllable, it'd be cool to have easy playlist management/backup that other devices could see, and potentially an android client if possible?

                I've dabbled with the "____sonic" ecosystem back before i was really good at linux, and struggled a bunch, before giving up without anything real to show for it.

                just curious if anyone else has been down this road successfully!

                thanks for this community, my scrolling stops INSTANTLY when i see a post from here.

                (oh my music server is a truenas SMB share, hosted in a proxmox vm! not opposed to putting a big SSD in this device if local music would make things easier)

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                I use Jellyfin with FinAmp for Android. Even supports offline caching.

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                • a@91268476.xyzA [email protected]

                  @solrize @selfhosted assuming you have the file in the same machine you want to listen to it, and you are the only one who wants to access it, sure that is fine

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                  Sometimes they are on a remote server that I sshfs mount and play the same way. Multiple people could use the server at the same time if desired, though for me it hasn't been an issue. It's audio, I don't need a visual UI for it. I still have a fair amount of physical media too including LP's, though my record player is long gone.

                  Anyway, be happy that I didn't mention FORTH :).

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                  • S [email protected]

                    right now I'm trying a dedicated Jellyfin instance for audio only (bought the lifetime emby subscription before i learned about jellyfin, so video is elsewhere) but having trouble finding a good client that could run on the guts of an old autonomic MMS2A. That device has an analog and digital output, which with the normal OS treated as two separate sources. is that something anyone else has tinkered with? the original plan was to just run a kodi instance with the jellyfin addon, but im not sure if this has the horsepower to run kodi, and certainly not two at once! (4gb of ram max for this beast.

                    i need it to be remotely controllable, it'd be cool to have easy playlist management/backup that other devices could see, and potentially an android client if possible?

                    I've dabbled with the "____sonic" ecosystem back before i was really good at linux, and struggled a bunch, before giving up without anything real to show for it.

                    just curious if anyone else has been down this road successfully!

                    thanks for this community, my scrolling stops INSTANTLY when i see a post from here.

                    (oh my music server is a truenas SMB share, hosted in a proxmox vm! not opposed to putting a big SSD in this device if local music would make things easier)

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                    Gathered all music/Audiobook Files on my Synology NAS, organized in folders. Beside, there is still a Lyrion Music Server (LMS) running on the NAS in a docker. Put the Squeezer Play Client on every possible device (Windows, Linux PC, Android, Tigerbox, Pi zeros) and streaming works well for me at Home.

                    Access either via Web or App on Android/iOS. I have enabled navigating in LMS via folders because ID3 Tags are poorly maintained in my files. 😕

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                      right now I'm trying a dedicated Jellyfin instance for audio only (bought the lifetime emby subscription before i learned about jellyfin, so video is elsewhere) but having trouble finding a good client that could run on the guts of an old autonomic MMS2A. That device has an analog and digital output, which with the normal OS treated as two separate sources. is that something anyone else has tinkered with? the original plan was to just run a kodi instance with the jellyfin addon, but im not sure if this has the horsepower to run kodi, and certainly not two at once! (4gb of ram max for this beast.

                      i need it to be remotely controllable, it'd be cool to have easy playlist management/backup that other devices could see, and potentially an android client if possible?

                      I've dabbled with the "____sonic" ecosystem back before i was really good at linux, and struggled a bunch, before giving up without anything real to show for it.

                      just curious if anyone else has been down this road successfully!

                      thanks for this community, my scrolling stops INSTANTLY when i see a post from here.

                      (oh my music server is a truenas SMB share, hosted in a proxmox vm! not opposed to putting a big SSD in this device if local music would make things easier)

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                      My use case: collection based on single-flac + cuesheets, thousands, many of which are HD.
                      Setup: all the music is in an NFS share in my HTPC, which also runs Kodi (flatpak) for both video and audio media. That machine is connected to my main audio setup via USB DAC.

                      The Kodi music DB is hosted externally in mariaDB in the same server. I use 2 headless Kodi (OSMC) clients with HiFiBerry DACs as streamers around the house, using the same DB/media. Lastly I also have an Nvidia Shield running Kodi also exposing the same collection/DB.

                      Over the years I have tested many alternatives, including navidrome, volumio, and others, but they all struggle handling my music collection, choke processing cuesheets or don't even support them, or can't handle NFS reliably or at all, or can't process 24 bit content etc.

                      I couldn't find any solution nearly as reliable, performant or flexible as this one. I use this setup pretty much daily. With incremental improvements, it's been running for more than 10 years.

                      Each Kodi client can be managed via its web interface (a little dated but fully functional and reliable), amd via Android app (I use Yatse).

                      The main server also exposes the music collection via DLNA.

                      I looked at jellyfin/Plex in the past as well but for muy use case, it's over-complicated and didn't add value.

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                        https://biggaybunny.tumblr.com/post/166787080920/tech-enthusiasts-everything-in-my-house-is-wired

                        I just have a bunch of media files (.ogg, .mp3, etc.) in directories and play them with mplayer from the command line. Playlist = shell script that plays some group of files. I use old school track numbering (01-whatever, 02-whatsit, etc.) though, so most of the time "mplayer *" is how I play an album and the tracks play automatically in the right order. I don't understand the purpose of anything fancier. Now get off my lawn.

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                        I host my media on a bookshelf and play it through a stereo

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                          My use case: collection based on single-flac + cuesheets, thousands, many of which are HD.
                          Setup: all the music is in an NFS share in my HTPC, which also runs Kodi (flatpak) for both video and audio media. That machine is connected to my main audio setup via USB DAC.

                          The Kodi music DB is hosted externally in mariaDB in the same server. I use 2 headless Kodi (OSMC) clients with HiFiBerry DACs as streamers around the house, using the same DB/media. Lastly I also have an Nvidia Shield running Kodi also exposing the same collection/DB.

                          Over the years I have tested many alternatives, including navidrome, volumio, and others, but they all struggle handling my music collection, choke processing cuesheets or don't even support them, or can't handle NFS reliably or at all, or can't process 24 bit content etc.

                          I couldn't find any solution nearly as reliable, performant or flexible as this one. I use this setup pretty much daily. With incremental improvements, it's been running for more than 10 years.

                          Each Kodi client can be managed via its web interface (a little dated but fully functional and reliable), amd via Android app (I use Yatse).

                          The main server also exposes the music collection via DLNA.

                          I looked at jellyfin/Plex in the past as well but for muy use case, it's over-complicated and didn't add value.

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                          i do love me some Kodi/libreELEC!

                          how hard is it to stand up a headless kodi? this would still work with jellyfin with addon, but it might be REALLY FUN to install a kodi addon with no screen

                          also i am having trouble hunting down what cuesheets means in this context?

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                            Navidrome server, symfonium on android is amazing. I also use maloja and multi-scrobbler to caoture plays from multiple sources and keep a in-house record of my plays.

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                            Symfonium looks amazing except for the part where you need a google play account to use it. It literally has every feature I've been looking for.

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                              Symfonium looks amazing except for the part where you need a google play account to use it. It literally has every feature I've been looking for.

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                              ewwww really? not even Aurora store?

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                                right now I'm trying a dedicated Jellyfin instance for audio only (bought the lifetime emby subscription before i learned about jellyfin, so video is elsewhere) but having trouble finding a good client that could run on the guts of an old autonomic MMS2A. That device has an analog and digital output, which with the normal OS treated as two separate sources. is that something anyone else has tinkered with? the original plan was to just run a kodi instance with the jellyfin addon, but im not sure if this has the horsepower to run kodi, and certainly not two at once! (4gb of ram max for this beast.

                                i need it to be remotely controllable, it'd be cool to have easy playlist management/backup that other devices could see, and potentially an android client if possible?

                                I've dabbled with the "____sonic" ecosystem back before i was really good at linux, and struggled a bunch, before giving up without anything real to show for it.

                                just curious if anyone else has been down this road successfully!

                                thanks for this community, my scrolling stops INSTANTLY when i see a post from here.

                                (oh my music server is a truenas SMB share, hosted in a proxmox vm! not opposed to putting a big SSD in this device if local music would make things easier)

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                                I just keep all of my music in an NFS share on my NAS and play it with Rhythmbox or VLC. I keep a compressed copy on the SD card in my phone to listen to when I'm not home.

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                                  Symfonium looks amazing except for the part where you need a google play account to use it. It literally has every feature I've been looking for.

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                                  There is a way without Google Play outlined here: https://support.symfonium.app/t/how-can-i-pay-for-symfonium-without-google-play/1290/2

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                                  • S [email protected]

                                    i do love me some Kodi/libreELEC!

                                    how hard is it to stand up a headless kodi? this would still work with jellyfin with addon, but it might be REALLY FUN to install a kodi addon with no screen

                                    also i am having trouble hunting down what cuesheets means in this context?

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                                    also i am having trouble hunting down what cuesheets means in this context?

                                    When you rip an audio CD you can either create one file for each track or you can rip the entire CD as one track and create a cue sheet file which is basically a text file describing where each track starts in that single audio file. This can be useful to have an exact copy of the CD without adding unintended gaps between tracks. It is primarily useful if you intend on recreating the actual audio CD at a later time from the ripped data. Most people don't need this.

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                                      right now I'm trying a dedicated Jellyfin instance for audio only (bought the lifetime emby subscription before i learned about jellyfin, so video is elsewhere) but having trouble finding a good client that could run on the guts of an old autonomic MMS2A. That device has an analog and digital output, which with the normal OS treated as two separate sources. is that something anyone else has tinkered with? the original plan was to just run a kodi instance with the jellyfin addon, but im not sure if this has the horsepower to run kodi, and certainly not two at once! (4gb of ram max for this beast.

                                      i need it to be remotely controllable, it'd be cool to have easy playlist management/backup that other devices could see, and potentially an android client if possible?

                                      I've dabbled with the "____sonic" ecosystem back before i was really good at linux, and struggled a bunch, before giving up without anything real to show for it.

                                      just curious if anyone else has been down this road successfully!

                                      thanks for this community, my scrolling stops INSTANTLY when i see a post from here.

                                      (oh my music server is a truenas SMB share, hosted in a proxmox vm! not opposed to putting a big SSD in this device if local music would make things easier)

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                                      I just use syncthing to copy music to my phone sd card.

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                                        right now I'm trying a dedicated Jellyfin instance for audio only (bought the lifetime emby subscription before i learned about jellyfin, so video is elsewhere) but having trouble finding a good client that could run on the guts of an old autonomic MMS2A. That device has an analog and digital output, which with the normal OS treated as two separate sources. is that something anyone else has tinkered with? the original plan was to just run a kodi instance with the jellyfin addon, but im not sure if this has the horsepower to run kodi, and certainly not two at once! (4gb of ram max for this beast.

                                        i need it to be remotely controllable, it'd be cool to have easy playlist management/backup that other devices could see, and potentially an android client if possible?

                                        I've dabbled with the "____sonic" ecosystem back before i was really good at linux, and struggled a bunch, before giving up without anything real to show for it.

                                        just curious if anyone else has been down this road successfully!

                                        thanks for this community, my scrolling stops INSTANTLY when i see a post from here.

                                        (oh my music server is a truenas SMB share, hosted in a proxmox vm! not opposed to putting a big SSD in this device if local music would make things easier)

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                                        I picked up a Denon DNP-730AE network audio player on ebay and I run Tiny-DLNA on my server where the music files and playlists are stored.

                                        Works great and sounds great.

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                                          I just use syncthing to copy music to my phone sd card.

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                                          ooo! what is the new syncthing hotness for Android? i enjoy it on the (linux) gaming PC's but I've been wanting that for savestates and memory cards on my phone too!

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