Netherlands: 18 year old Ryan al-Najjar was tied up, beaten, and drowned by her father and brothers for being too Westernized
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A Syrian refugee who fled to the Netherlands has reportedly confessed to murdering his 18-year-old daughter and dumping her body in a canal before fleeing the country in an apparent admission note sent to a Dutch newspaper.
Father-of-nine Khaled al-Najjar, 52, wrote in an email sent to De Telegraaf that he had killed his 18-year-old daughter Ryan al-Najjar, urging the publication to report 'I am the one who killed'.
The confession did not specify exactly why he had decided to murder his daughter, with al-Najjar writing only that he was 'very angry with her', adding: 'The reason is between me and the judge. I will read that in court'.
But neighbours and friends suspect Ryan's death came as the result of an honour killing, with one claiming they had previously sheltered her when she had fled the family home in fear of retribution from her father.
Requesting anonymity to prevent any backlash, they told De Telegraaf that Ryan had a Dutch boyfriend, wanted to stop wearing a headscarf and had been beaten by her father who disagreed with her adoption of a Western lifestyle.
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The whole idea of religion is outdated. Abrahamic religions all share a similar problem. The real issue arises when a religion meets a particular culture.
No normal culture should/would ever allow this kind of thing to happen. Fundamentalist Islamic culture is the most harmful plague of its kind. It's miles ahead of other any other problematic religious cultures, and it's significant enough to be concerned.
It's something we should actively denounce and criticize, and it's not racist or disrespectful to other cultures to do so.
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Islam is a plague.
I dont understand why leftists try and platform this terrible religion.
Your framing is off. Leftists don't platform any religion. They simply don't discriminate on the basis of religion. Again, on the basis of any religion.
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Oh yeah, im very aware.
But this article is about Islam, so im going to talk about Islam.
Weird how that works huh?
You can't do that when trying to make a point about something like religion. You are trying to set rules for the argument to go in your favor.
The evil of Islam and the evil of Christianity are one in the same. The same can be said for any religion.
This isn't your world. You aren't the main character. You don't get to dictate the rules of an argument and truth. If you want to blame 1 religion for it's evil, then blame all of them.
Also I don't think leftists support these actions. They support people's rights to religious freedoms. It's up to people themselves to know not to kill.
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I often see the term leftist thrown around by right wing commentators like it’s a bad thing.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Where did I imply being a leftist was bad?
I'm just perpetually confused as to why people on the left side of the spectrum platform Islam while it kills women and persecutes gay people
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It has less to do with religion and more to do with culture
No. It's far right religious extremism....
You're taking the actions of the most extreme 0.001% and using a label that applies to literally billions of people...
It's hard to believe someone cant logically understand that
wrote on last edited by [email protected]You don't know jack shit about Islam lol. Here in India we aren't even an Islamic country yet honour killings by Muslims are a thing.
There is a reason Islam is the most hated religion on the planet. Western liberals are a plague that love a religion that encourages murder as punishment. They live in their fantasy world where they think Christianity is the worst. No wonder they're the joke of this century.
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Where did I imply being a leftist was bad?
I'm just perpetually confused as to why people on the left side of the spectrum platform Islam while it kills women and persecutes gay people
️You singled out leftists as doing something bad, ergo leftists are bad. Sorry, a bit of a knee jerk reaction on my part.
I guess it’s probably because leftists tend to promote religious tolerance even where it isn’t deserved (imo).
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The whole idea of religion is outdated. Abrahamic religions all share a similar problem. The real issue arises when a religion meets a particular culture.
No normal culture should/would ever allow this kind of thing to happen. Fundamentalist Islamic culture is the most harmful plague of its kind. It's miles ahead of other any other problematic religious cultures, and it's significant enough to be concerned.
It's something we should actively denounce and criticize, and it's not racist or disrespectful to other cultures to do so.
Someone paid no attention to religious fundamentalist in history. Religion is just a form of division. No different than race, age, class, or sexuality. If there's a religion (or any other kind of group) they've killed ppl for not conforming
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You can't do that when trying to make a point about something like religion. You are trying to set rules for the argument to go in your favor.
The evil of Islam and the evil of Christianity are one in the same. The same can be said for any religion.
This isn't your world. You aren't the main character. You don't get to dictate the rules of an argument and truth. If you want to blame 1 religion for it's evil, then blame all of them.
Also I don't think leftists support these actions. They support people's rights to religious freedoms. It's up to people themselves to know not to kill.
This poor woman would've been killed even if her folks were Christian. They were mentally unstable to have thought this was a good thing.wrote on last edited by [email protected]Well yeah, id imagine leftists dont support these actions.
Leftists dont support murder like the right does.
I'm not talking about the cess pit that is Christianity and its kid diddling because this article isnt about Christianity.
I'm speaking about Islam and its woman-killing because this article is about Islam and its woman-killing.
Idk what to tell you.
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It's not fascist to wonder why leftists platform this religion while bullshit like this happens.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]The VAST majority of Muslims are just regular, kind people who don't murder their families.
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A Syrian refugee who fled to the Netherlands has reportedly confessed to murdering his 18-year-old daughter and dumping her body in a canal before fleeing the country in an apparent admission note sent to a Dutch newspaper.
Father-of-nine Khaled al-Najjar, 52, wrote in an email sent to De Telegraaf that he had killed his 18-year-old daughter Ryan al-Najjar, urging the publication to report 'I am the one who killed'.
The confession did not specify exactly why he had decided to murder his daughter, with al-Najjar writing only that he was 'very angry with her', adding: 'The reason is between me and the judge. I will read that in court'.
But neighbours and friends suspect Ryan's death came as the result of an honour killing, with one claiming they had previously sheltered her when she had fled the family home in fear of retribution from her father.
Requesting anonymity to prevent any backlash, they told De Telegraaf that Ryan had a Dutch boyfriend, wanted to stop wearing a headscarf and had been beaten by her father who disagreed with her adoption of a Western lifestyle.
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Killing a Muslim kid is Western, wtf?
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What is whataboutism, Alex?
Whataboutism is a lateral move. What I suggested was a zoom-out.
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The whole idea of religion is outdated. Abrahamic religions all share a similar problem. The real issue arises when a religion meets a particular culture.
No normal culture should/would ever allow this kind of thing to happen. Fundamentalist Islamic culture is the most harmful plague of its kind. It's miles ahead of other any other problematic religious cultures, and it's significant enough to be concerned.
It's something we should actively denounce and criticize, and it's not racist or disrespectful to other cultures to do so.
Which occupied territories are Muslim countries presently starving and/or bombing?
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Islam is a plague.
I dont understand why leftists try and platform this terrible religion.
Westerners can be so fucking weird. Some of these people would rather let teenage girls get beaten to death than risk compromising their own white saviour complex and need to feel tolerant. My family was Muslim and I've been told, by the whitest of the white, that I'm racist for saying something against Islam because "cultures must be respected". I am racist against my own people? Oh my.. then, of course, there's the other Westerners who believe I obviously have four wives and trade in camels even when I claim not to be religious..
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Someone paid no attention to religious fundamentalist in history. Religion is just a form of division. No different than race, age, class, or sexuality. If there's a religion (or any other kind of group) they've killed ppl for not conforming
Yes, and Islamic fundamentalists are the worst in terms of what we have in this age. They outnumber and outdo anyone else.
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Islam is a plague.
I dont understand why leftists try and platform this terrible religion.
Religion is a plague.
You can believe in things, even god(s) and not be “religious.” But as soon as religion kicks in, and the dogmatism and compartmentalization that comes with it, it becomes a tool of authoritarianism, which itself breeds every kind of inhuman horror imaginable.
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Which occupied territories are Muslim countries presently starving and/or bombing?
wrote on last edited by [email protected]That's more geopolitical than cultural, which ultimately is cultural, yes, but I think you know the difference.
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Not everyone has the privilege to choose where they move.
If you're a Syrian refugee you definitely have the choice of going to Turkey rather than all the long way to the Netherlands..
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You singled out leftists as doing something bad, ergo leftists are bad. Sorry, a bit of a knee jerk reaction on my part.
I guess it’s probably because leftists tend to promote religious tolerance even where it isn’t deserved (imo).
Again, im not really sure why when religion, in modern practice, is almost explicitly against every leftist goal despite its teachings.
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Islam is a plague.
I dont understand why leftists try and platform this terrible religion.
Cat Stevens is despicable and Sinead O'Connor is pathetic. The new pope is complicit in child abuse. The Rimpoche was an HIV superspreader, and Mohammed was a warlord.
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The VAST majority of Muslims are just regular, kind people who don't murder their families.
Yeah that's great.
But why, I really hate to be this guy right now, do leftists not platform Christianity if that is the case?
Religion is a plague on this earth, just to make my position clear here so some idiot doesn't think im a right wing chud.
