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Disposable E-Cigarettes More Toxic Than Traditional Cigarettes: High Levels of Lead, Other Hazardous Metals Found in E-Cigarettes Popular with Teens

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  • S [email protected]

    If you read the paper, it assumes a 100% absorption rate of the heavy metals emitted.

    I'm not here to defend vapes but I think that is a seriously overlooked flaw in this study. Most people don't puff a cigarette/vape and hold it in their lungs until it's completely absorbed.

    Couldn't see anything about the bioavailability of these carcinogens via lungs factored into the absorption rate either.

    Ontop of that the sample size from this study is abysmal and from the same manufacturer and there is also a declared conflict of interest.

    IMO more studies need to be done before we can conclusively determine the damage and risks of disposable vapes.

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    Some of the studies on smoking I've seen were less about understanding how and why people consume tobacco and recommend alternatives, and more like echoing the old practices and beliefs of the temperance movement, which considers tobacco and alcohol as archenemies of humanity. That anytime there's someone publicly declaring they quit smoking, it's followed with praises which at times reminiscent of a tent revival.

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    • C [email protected]

      superficial

      You're right. Cancer is superficial damage. Speaking of which, enjoy your cancer.

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      #44

      Nicotine doesn't cause cancer, tobacco does.

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      • H [email protected]

        Do you recycle condoms you find on the ground too? Vapes are probably the most disgusting thing recently invented.

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        #45

        It's not like the batteries come out all covered in vape juice. And I have zero intent to pick up the habit.

        To be fair, they should treat them like milk jugs back in the day and require a deposit on disposable vapes.

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        • softestsapphic@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

          They may look like travel shampoo bottles and smell like bubblegum, but after a few hundred puffs, some disposable, electronic cigarettes and vape pods release higher amounts of toxic metals than older e-cigarettes and traditional cigarettes, according to a study from the University of California, Davis. For example, one of the disposable e-cigarettes studied released more lead during a day’s use than nearly 20 packs of traditional cigarettes.

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          YOU HEARD'EM FOLKS! GO GET YOUR CIGARETTES!

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          • S [email protected]

            Guess I'm gonna be ultra fucked. I'm not going back to cigarettes. And I already quit nicotine once for seven and a half years. Starting again was the biggest mistake of my life cause I don't wanna go through that again. Oh well, it's not like we have much chance at a future anyway.

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            Hey GPT! List a bunch of chemicals they put in our air, water, and food that we breathe, drink, and eat every day!

            """

            Sure, buddy!

            Sodium nitrite – processed meats (bacon, ham, hot dogs) – forms nitrosamines → DNA damage, colon cancer
            BHA – cereals, chips, preserved fats – endocrine disruption, liver and stomach tumors
            BHT – gum, snacks, butter – weak estrogen mimic, promotes lung and bladder tumors
            Propyl gallate – oils, meats, soup base – oxidative stress, endocrine disruption, tumor growth
            Red 3 (Erythrosine) – candy, cherries, cake decor – thyroid tumors, DNA strand breaks
            Potassium bromate – white bread, rolls – kidney tumors, oxidative DNA damage
            Titanium dioxide – candy, gum, supplements – genotoxicity, gut inflammation, colon cancer
            Aspartame – diet soda, sugar-free gum – linked to blood cancers in rodents, metabolic disruption
            Carrageenan – non-dairy milk, ice cream, deli meat – chronic gut inflammation, promotes tumors
            Polysorbate 80 – ice cream, dressings – gut permeability, inflammation, tumor promotion
            Carboxymethylcellulose – frozen foods, sauces – microbiome disruption, chronic inflammation
            TBHQ – chips, fast food, frozen meals – immune suppression, cell mutation, liver tumors
            Bisphenol A (BPA) – canned food linings, water bottles – hormone mimic, breast/prostate cancer
            Bisphenol S (BPS) – BPA-free plastics, receipts – endocrine disruptor, reproductive harm
            Phthalates – food packaging, gloves – testosterone suppression, breast cancer, birth defects
            PFOA – Teflon pans, food wrappers – thyroid disruption, kidney/testicular cancer
            PFOS – stain-resistant wrappers – immune suppression, liver tumors
            Trihalomethanes – chlorinated tap water – bladder cancer, reproductive toxicity
            Haloacetic acids – tap water disinfection byproducts – DNA damage, liver tumors
            Formaldehyde – air fresheners, glues – nasopharyngeal cancer, leukemia
            Benzene – car exhaust, cleaning products – blood cancers, bone marrow suppression
            Toluene – paints, nail polish – neurotoxin, possible liver cancer link
            Xylene – solvents, adhesives – respiratory inflammation, CNS toxicity
            Vinyl chloride – PVC plastics – liver cancer, angiosarcoma
            1,3-butadiene – air pollution, rubber manufacturing – leukemia, lymphomas

            """

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            • anarchy79@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

              Hey GPT! List a bunch of chemicals they put in our air, water, and food that we breathe, drink, and eat every day!

              """

              Sure, buddy!

              Sodium nitrite – processed meats (bacon, ham, hot dogs) – forms nitrosamines → DNA damage, colon cancer
              BHA – cereals, chips, preserved fats – endocrine disruption, liver and stomach tumors
              BHT – gum, snacks, butter – weak estrogen mimic, promotes lung and bladder tumors
              Propyl gallate – oils, meats, soup base – oxidative stress, endocrine disruption, tumor growth
              Red 3 (Erythrosine) – candy, cherries, cake decor – thyroid tumors, DNA strand breaks
              Potassium bromate – white bread, rolls – kidney tumors, oxidative DNA damage
              Titanium dioxide – candy, gum, supplements – genotoxicity, gut inflammation, colon cancer
              Aspartame – diet soda, sugar-free gum – linked to blood cancers in rodents, metabolic disruption
              Carrageenan – non-dairy milk, ice cream, deli meat – chronic gut inflammation, promotes tumors
              Polysorbate 80 – ice cream, dressings – gut permeability, inflammation, tumor promotion
              Carboxymethylcellulose – frozen foods, sauces – microbiome disruption, chronic inflammation
              TBHQ – chips, fast food, frozen meals – immune suppression, cell mutation, liver tumors
              Bisphenol A (BPA) – canned food linings, water bottles – hormone mimic, breast/prostate cancer
              Bisphenol S (BPS) – BPA-free plastics, receipts – endocrine disruptor, reproductive harm
              Phthalates – food packaging, gloves – testosterone suppression, breast cancer, birth defects
              PFOA – Teflon pans, food wrappers – thyroid disruption, kidney/testicular cancer
              PFOS – stain-resistant wrappers – immune suppression, liver tumors
              Trihalomethanes – chlorinated tap water – bladder cancer, reproductive toxicity
              Haloacetic acids – tap water disinfection byproducts – DNA damage, liver tumors
              Formaldehyde – air fresheners, glues – nasopharyngeal cancer, leukemia
              Benzene – car exhaust, cleaning products – blood cancers, bone marrow suppression
              Toluene – paints, nail polish – neurotoxin, possible liver cancer link
              Xylene – solvents, adhesives – respiratory inflammation, CNS toxicity
              Vinyl chloride – PVC plastics – liver cancer, angiosarcoma
              1,3-butadiene – air pollution, rubber manufacturing – leukemia, lymphomas

              """

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              #48

              Oh shit! So, how many of the chemicals in our immediate environment haven't been tested for the effects they have on humans at all?

              Over 350,000 chemicals are in global use. Fewer than 1% have been thoroughly safety tested. Most are unvetted, unregulated, or shielded by trade secrecy.

              Holy shit! What can we do about that?

              ¯\(ツ)/¯

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              • ultragigagigantic@lemmy.mlU [email protected]

                There needs to be a $20 deposit on them that you get back when you turn in the empty vape.

                Or, hot take, make vapes you can refill.

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                #49

                There are ones you can refill, the disposable ones should just be banned altogether.

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                • softestsapphic@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                  They may look like travel shampoo bottles and smell like bubblegum, but after a few hundred puffs, some disposable, electronic cigarettes and vape pods release higher amounts of toxic metals than older e-cigarettes and traditional cigarettes, according to a study from the University of California, Davis. For example, one of the disposable e-cigarettes studied released more lead during a day’s use than nearly 20 packs of traditional cigarettes.

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                  All they had to do was keep it quiet for 15 years until the new generation was addicted.

                  Remember when e-cigarettes looked like cigarettes, and were for a brief time allowed to be smoked indoors in public? That's how it started, we were told they were completely healthy, and a way to "kick the habit", because it's "just a habit", not one of the strongest addictions you'll ever encounter, according to the people who make millions off of it.

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                  • anarchy79@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                    Oh shit! So, how many of the chemicals in our immediate environment haven't been tested for the effects they have on humans at all?

                    Over 350,000 chemicals are in global use. Fewer than 1% have been thoroughly safety tested. Most are unvetted, unregulated, or shielded by trade secrecy.

                    Holy shit! What can we do about that?

                    ¯\(ツ)/¯

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                    OMG! What about compound effects, like what happens when you mix all of them randomly??

                    Chemicals are tested alone, but we’re exposed to hundreds at once. Combined, they can amplify toxicity, disrupt hormones, damage DNA, overwhelm detox systems, and trigger chronic disease. The mix is far deadlier than any single part.

                    Holy shit, no way!

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                    • H [email protected]

                      Do you recycle condoms you find on the ground too? Vapes are probably the most disgusting thing recently invented.

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                      Do condoms come with lithium batteries? No? Well that’s pretty fucking weird. So they recycle batteries and you complain about vapes. Try being actually useful for once.

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                      • E [email protected]

                        Nice try Marlboro Man!

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                        It's so fucked that every single actor in the Marlboro commercials died of lung cancer. All of them.

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                        • don@lemmy.caD [email protected]

                          Do condoms come with lithium batteries? No? Well that’s pretty fucking weird. So they recycle batteries and you complain about vapes. Try being actually useful for once.

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                          Are you being obtuse on purpose? Picking up disgusting items that have been in intimate contact with human bodily fluids to harvest dollar store items is pretty fucking weird.

                          JFC, was it that hard to parse?

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                          • H [email protected]

                            Do you recycle condoms you find on the ground too? Vapes are probably the most disgusting thing recently invented.

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                            The dude is right.

                            Cigarettes are pure cancer, we all know that.

                            But replacing them with disposable chinese manufactured cancer plastics and batteries that also give you cancer and additional forms of cancer and are a thousand times heavier on the environment to produce is just peak late stage capitalism in a fucking nutshell.

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                            • R [email protected]

                              It's not like the batteries come out all covered in vape juice. And I have zero intent to pick up the habit.

                              To be fair, they should treat them like milk jugs back in the day and require a deposit on disposable vapes.

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                              You have to sort of, I don't know, come into contact with the stupid device that has been in people's mouths first.

                              Are you people being intentionally dense like neutronium this Sunday morning?

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                                IT'S A NATURAL PLANT

                                lol

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                                • B [email protected]

                                  What I don't get, PG/VG & nicotine + flavor chemicals. How the heck does lead get in there? Afaik its not used in synthesis of any of those things

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                                  Lead comes from the device hardware, not the juice. Heating coils, solder, and metal parts shed particles when hot.

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                                  • C [email protected]

                                    Or just another shitty study like the one they did in Oregon where they fired the coils for 60 seconds at a time and literally melted the rigs down before measuring what chemicals off gassed from the smoldering pile of plastic and metal.

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                                    Yeah no Chinese ever shoved cancer in the face of consumers for money! Let's trust capitalism on this one.

                                    🙄

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                                      Are you being obtuse on purpose? Picking up disgusting items that have been in intimate contact with human bodily fluids to harvest dollar store items is pretty fucking weird.

                                      JFC, was it that hard to parse?

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                                      Holy raging badgerfuck, you’re comparing an object deliberately designed to contain sperm with lithium fucking batteries contained in vapes. Not dildos, fucking vapes. You could’ve compared batteries to used fucking drinking straws, but decided to zero in on used condoms, instead. That’s stupefyingly fucking weird.

                                      Do you actually fucking believe their hands are drenched with body fluids after harvesting the batteries? Do you think all vapes are just completely covered with spit and semen?

                                      Jesus fucking christ, is there any part of your fucking brain that has any connection to sense, any at all?

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                                        There are ones you can refill, the disposable ones should just be banned altogether.

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                                        The ones you could refill were the only game in town at the beginning, only thing I ever used. Need to get back on flower for weed but the cartridges are super convenient, at least they don’t have batteries(I know there are disposable weed vapes, not the same as the cartridges)

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                                        • anarchy79@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                                          Yeah no Chinese ever shoved cancer in the face of consumers for money! Let's trust capitalism on this one.

                                          🙄

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                                          You're right China bad therefore junk science and our feelings is the only path to follow. 🙄

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