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Germany is now deporting pro-Palestine EU citizens. This is a chilling new step | Hanno Hauenstein

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  • tattorack@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

    They wouldn't need "free" water, electricity, or go to Israel for a job if they had autonomy.

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    How does that change the fact that there is no genocide going on.

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      What? We're talking about the person from Germany chanting "From river to the sea" thingy, which was made illegal in Germany.

      Of course what that war criminal is doing in Gaza is beyond unethical, but both my comment and article is about what happened in Germany

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      Ah ok, fair enough. I did read the article, but I didn't realise that was what you were talking about - perhaps quoting the bit you're responding to would stop me and others being confused.

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        Germany has recently taken a chilling new step, signalling its willingness to use political views as grounds to curb migration. Authorities are now moving to deport foreign nationals for participating in pro-Palestine actions. As I reported this week in the Intercept, four people in Berlin – three EU citizens and one US citizen – are set to be deported over their involvement in demonstrations against Israel’s war on Gaza. None of the four have been convicted of a crime, and yet the authorities are seeking to simply throw them out of the country.

        The accusations against them include aggravated breach of the peace and obstruction of a police arrest. Reports from last year suggest that one of the actions they were alleged to have been involved in included breaking into a university building and threatening people with objects that could have been used as potential weapons.

        But the deportation orders go further. They cite a broader list of alleged behaviours: chanting slogans such as “Free Gaza” and “From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free”, joining road blockades (a tactic frequently used by climate activists), and calling a police officer a “fascist”. Read closely, the real charge appears to be something more basic: protest itself.

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        So, once a nazi, always a nazi, it seems. Carved Hakenkreuzes in foreheads for all of them.

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          Is your premise that people cannot see the errors of their ways and therefore cannot change?
          Or are you presenting facts in an attempt to imply that all this time there's been a shadow Nazi government? Or..?
          I don't know if you're aware of this, but during the war years, everyone had to be a member of the Nazi party. All youth groups that weren't official Nazi organizations were banned.

          In the years between WWII and German reunification, there was an active effort to stamp out Nazi ideals in the West. Children learned in graphic detail what atrocities were committed, and many of them took those learnings to heart. To this day, spending on military in Germany, surveillance by the state, are fraught topics. German politics couldn't be further from a 1 or 2 party system.

          What was informs but doesn't dictate what is. I have spent a lot of time in Germany, and I'm certain that in spite of the rise of AfD, Germany is the European country furthest from Nazi ideals.

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          people cannot see the errors of their ways and therefore cannot change

          Not when they are immersed in a roiling pot of fascist propaganda, no. You can't see error when you are surrounded by media justifying your decisions. You can't find the will to change when you've been told again and again that circumstances are beyond your control.

          Right now, German media is as bad as anything the MAGA Americans are churning out, with migrant hysteria and xenophobia hitting a fevered pitch. Combined with the energy crisis in Europe and the economic downturn globally, it's a recipe for a new wave of Fascist dictatorship that Germans as rapidly buying into once again.

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          • geneva_convenience@lemmy.mlG [email protected]

            Everything you said is false.

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            Oh really?

            Hamas literally made a "recruitment video" about digging up water pipes: https://youtu.be/04NB27x138Y

            The part where israel warns the population is true tho - confirmed by many people who literally got these messages on their phones. A german journalist even showed the message he received while being near gaza. Also, why do you think videos exist where the cam is lying on the ground BEFORE the attack hits? Because they know in advance.

            The part of "forced their own people to stay in buildings that are bombed" I can't proof tbf - however, there are big indicators like people showing signs of restraint in bombed buildings, indicating they were tied to a chair or something similar to avoid escape. Hamas traditionally haven't given a rats ass about the population, so this isn't even far fetched and a realistic scenario.

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              Completely false.

              Those are reperation payments from WW2 and Germany stopped weapon exports to Israel.

              https://www.reuters.com/world/germany-has-stopped-approving-war-weapons-exports-israel-source-says-2024-09-18/

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              Have you even read the article you’re citing? It literally says :

              The Economy Ministry said on Thursday there was no ban on arms exports to Israel and there would not be one

              Also, German arms exports to Israel increase, contradicting government reports

              Germany's arms exports to Israel are much higher than the government said they were, with new numbers showing the government approved exports worth €94 million since August alone.

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                Germany has recently taken a chilling new step, signalling its willingness to use political views as grounds to curb migration. Authorities are now moving to deport foreign nationals for participating in pro-Palestine actions. As I reported this week in the Intercept, four people in Berlin – three EU citizens and one US citizen – are set to be deported over their involvement in demonstrations against Israel’s war on Gaza. None of the four have been convicted of a crime, and yet the authorities are seeking to simply throw them out of the country.

                The accusations against them include aggravated breach of the peace and obstruction of a police arrest. Reports from last year suggest that one of the actions they were alleged to have been involved in included breaking into a university building and threatening people with objects that could have been used as potential weapons.

                But the deportation orders go further. They cite a broader list of alleged behaviours: chanting slogans such as “Free Gaza” and “From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free”, joining road blockades (a tactic frequently used by climate activists), and calling a police officer a “fascist”. Read closely, the real charge appears to be something more basic: protest itself.

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                Zionists on the post 4 days ago were less quirky than on this one.

                Beautiful display of this brainrot ideology, if you can’t deny it, it’s antisemitism…

                If a Genocide wasn’t being conducted against Palestinians, it would be comical how detached these people are.

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                  To the jew haters in this thread: shame on you.

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                  Genocide is bad

                  You: AnTiSeMiTiSm!!

                  Sincerely, you are one, conflicting both zionism and judaism is disgusting.

                  History will not forget your ideological travesty.

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                    setting hospitals on fire

                    The hamas is using civilian buildings like hospitals, schools etc as bases. So yes - they are being bombed.

                    Reading the rest of your brainfart, any discussion with you is futile tho.

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                    Lol you're still upholding that "huMaN shielD bullshit".

                    Gaza is the size of Manhattan and pretty much as dense. Of course they're in the middle of civilians, asshole, they're in a concentration camp.

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                      Israel has pulled out of gaza by 2005, has provided gaza with free water and electricity and plenty of palestinians went to work in israel every day prior to october. So no, there is no genocide going on. You're just drinking the propaganda cool-aid like a clueless dumbass.

                      Also, support a russia and iran backed terrorist organisation that has been waging war against israel AND has been the aggressor in this conflict, killed israelis for no other reason than being jewish, digs up the water pipes so they can build rockets (and then complains about "OH NO THEY SHUT DOWN THE WATER SUPPLY :((((("), forced their own people to stay in buildings that are bombed (israel warns the population of gaza of incoming attacks) just so they can make a cool social media propaganda post.

                      So yes, I definitely think I'm on the right side. And you should just say that you hate jews and you want them dead instead of trying to talk around it. At least be honest.

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                      No Other reAsOn ThAn beiNg JewiSh

                      A two-year-old Palestinian was shot and killed by Israeli forces. On 1 June, an Israeli soldier shot and injured the child, as well as his father, with live ammunition; the boy succumbed to a head injury four days later. According to the Israeli military, as reported by the media, the soldier mistakenly identified the car where the father and the child were sitting as the source of a shooting attack towards a nearby Israeli settlement. Between 1 January and 12 June 2023, Israeli forces killed 21 Palestinian children in the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, compared with 14 children killed during in the same period in 2022.

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                        Israel has pulled out of gaza by 2005, has provided gaza with free water and electricity and plenty of palestinians went to work in israel every day prior to october. So no, there is no genocide going on. You're just drinking the propaganda cool-aid like a clueless dumbass.

                        Also, support a russia and iran backed terrorist organisation that has been waging war against israel AND has been the aggressor in this conflict, killed israelis for no other reason than being jewish, digs up the water pipes so they can build rockets (and then complains about "OH NO THEY SHUT DOWN THE WATER SUPPLY :((((("), forced their own people to stay in buildings that are bombed (israel warns the population of gaza of incoming attacks) just so they can make a cool social media propaganda post.

                        So yes, I definitely think I'm on the right side. And you should just say that you hate jews and you want them dead instead of trying to talk around it. At least be honest.

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                        Israel did pulled out of Gaza. They kept large part of the west bank to colonize, leading to the downfall of the Fatah and the rise of Hamas.

                        Jews are fine. In fact plenty of jews opposes Israel shit.

                        You specifically though, I don't know if you're Jewish, but you're definitely a piece of shit

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                          Bro defends a terrorist organisation that wants to eradicate an entire religion and thinks he's on the right side.

                          I fucking can't lmao.

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                          You can't what? Make your two braincells work together? Everyone sees that. Reddit would be more suitable for a retarded nazi like you.

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                            Lol you're still upholding that "huMaN shielD bullshit".

                            Gaza is the size of Manhattan and pretty much as dense. Of course they're in the middle of civilians, asshole, they're in a concentration camp.

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                            Don't bother. Dude is propably overweight zitface still living with his parents and would seek asylum from some non-fascist country instantly when war starts.

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                              Don't bother. Dude is propably overweight zitface still living with his parents and would seek asylum from some non-fascist country instantly when war starts.

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                              I know but I'm bored

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                                I know but I'm bored

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                                Me too. I could be doing nothing, but then I wouldn't be able to pick on these dipshit nazis here!

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                                  To the jew haters in this thread: shame on you.

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                                  Don't see any...

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                                    Oh really?

                                    Hamas literally made a "recruitment video" about digging up water pipes: https://youtu.be/04NB27x138Y

                                    The part where israel warns the population is true tho - confirmed by many people who literally got these messages on their phones. A german journalist even showed the message he received while being near gaza. Also, why do you think videos exist where the cam is lying on the ground BEFORE the attack hits? Because they know in advance.

                                    The part of "forced their own people to stay in buildings that are bombed" I can't proof tbf - however, there are big indicators like people showing signs of restraint in bombed buildings, indicating they were tied to a chair or something similar to avoid escape. Hamas traditionally haven't given a rats ass about the population, so this isn't even far fetched and a realistic scenario.

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                                    Also false. Astounding how every single thing Zionists say is a lie you can debunk in one google search. Yet they keep saying it.

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                                    • geneva_convenience@lemmy.mlG [email protected]

                                      Also false. Astounding how every single thing Zionists say is a lie you can debunk in one google search. Yet they keep saying it.

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                                      You say you can, yet you don't do it. Curious. Spreading misinformation by trying to seem smarter than you actually are. Classic .ml tactic. Pointless to talk with you dumbasses.

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                                        Ok so just like in America

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                                        Not at all, nothing in the post you replied to is actually true.

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                                        • underpantsweevil@lemmy.worldU [email protected]

                                          How can Germany “deport” an EU citizen?

                                          Have a half-dozen men with guns grab the person, shove them into the back of a squad car, drive them to a jail, make them wait in the jail until transport can be arranged, drag them to a plane, force them onto the plane, fly the plane to an Israeli-occupied territory, kick the person out of the plane into the hands of some genocidal Israeli lunatics, and leave.

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                                          None of that is true. There is due process, no hit squads. They will have the ability to bring this to court (a process which they already started). And deportation would happen to where they come from, so other EU countries and the US.

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