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Germany is now deporting pro-Palestine EU citizens. This is a chilling new step | Hanno Hauenstein

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    To the jew haters in this thread: shame on you.

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    Which comments are you talking about? There's one comment that's deleted by a mod, and mostly everyone else is talking about Germany.

    I've even gone to your instance to see what you see, and seems like you're complaining about something that's not present.

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      Name a more dynamic duo: German 🤝 being on the wrong side of history

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      Bro defends a terrorist organisation that wants to eradicate an entire religion and thinks he's on the right side.

      I fucking can't lmao.

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        You're being downvoted for your strawman framing. Recognising that Netanyahu's actions in Gaza (and farther, now) are unethical and illegal is absolutely not the same as calling for another Jewish genocide. Being pro-Palestine does not mean you're calling for the destruction of Israel or the murder of Jews.

        There seems to be a fairly successful effort to frame any opposition of Israel's actions as antisemitic, which is a disgraceful attempt to use the suffering of Jewish ancestors as a shield against criticism today.

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        What? We're talking about the person from Germany chanting "From river to the sea" thingy, which was made illegal in Germany.

        Of course what that war criminal is doing in Gaza is beyond unethical, but both my comment and article is about what happened in Germany

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          To the jew haters in this thread: shame on you.

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          The insult wont sting, idiot. Guess what, saying jewish people shouldn't be privileged anymore than any other ethnicity isn't HaTinG jeWs.

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            Bro defends a terrorist organisation that wants to eradicate an entire religion and thinks he's on the right side.

            I fucking can't lmao.

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            You defend a genocidal state that is carpet bombing civilians and commiting war crime everyday God makes and you think you're on the right side?

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              What? We're talking about the person from Germany chanting "From river to the sea" thingy, which was made illegal in Germany.

              Of course what that war criminal is doing in Gaza is beyond unethical, but both my comment and article is about what happened in Germany

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              Germans are super sensitive about it because they exported billions of euros of weapons to Israel. Follow the money

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                What mentality do you mean? The obedience? I feel like it’s more nuanced than that. Yes, following the rules everyone agreed on is lived in a rather inflexible way. If you think about it though, that’s democracy. It’s a commitment to the compromise. The unwritten contract between the majority and the minority. We recognize that the moment you start thinking "I don’t like this law, so I won’t follow it", democracy falls apart. People here want law and order even for laws they disagree with, because collectively that means that laws they agree with will also be followed by everyone.

                There are limits though. While I agree that it’s scary to see the AFD become more and more popular, I disagree with your prediction. The idea of "never again" regarding the Holocaust guides every single part of public life. There are not many Germans who would say they are proud of their country. Only every two years, when Germany plays soccer in the international leagues, flying a German flag does not feel weird. Shame for your own country. That’s what Germans think everyone expects us to feel.

                Strong military? We’re watching you. Your Great-Grandfather did what? Be sorry. Proud of Germany? How dare you.

                The very first words of our constitution ("Human dignity is untouchable.") are a testament to the Holocaust. It’s an incredibly well chosen sentence that every single law is measured against. We know the entire world expects us to uphold this principle forever.

                I am not arguing against the danger for democracy that the AFD poses. It’s very real. But in Germany we even have a law to actually make parties illegal that are against the constitution, most importantly the first sentence of it.

                So, if Germans are obedient to the law, and the most important principle of our law makes anything even close to the Holocaust illegal, isn’t obedience a good thing then? The real question is, would Germans decide to just accept unconstitutional laws, or rather insist on upholding the constitution? I think the huge protests in the past months have made clear that many people are already standing up for the constitution. Not because they just follow rules blindly, but because they actually believe in the principles of compromise, democracy and dignity.

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                NeVer AgAin, said the people funding a genocide as we speak

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                  I was responding to your original premise, that "Germans never stopped being Nazis" - and you know it. Don't try to feign outrage at being called out for condemning an entire country's people ("Germans") for the actions of a few (The Berlin Senate Administration.)

                  Do better, and perhaps people will earnestly engage with you for the better instead of just getting upset with you.

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                  Germany exported 3 billions of euros of weapon to Israel in the last 20 years. It's war profiteering

                  Pretty Nazi if you ask me

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                    That's a good point, because the protestors took a building by force and threatened staff and students with violence, while also smashing electronics into pieces.

                    I don't think protests should go as far as to instill fear into innocent citizens.

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                    Ah yes they "threatened people with tools that might be considered as weapons".

                    But of course they won't tell what it is, that's probably sound ridiculous

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                      You defend a genocidal state that is carpet bombing civilians and commiting war crime everyday God makes and you think you're on the right side?

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                      Israel has pulled out of gaza by 2005, has provided gaza with free water and electricity and plenty of palestinians went to work in israel every day prior to october. So no, there is no genocide going on. You're just drinking the propaganda cool-aid like a clueless dumbass.

                      Also, support a russia and iran backed terrorist organisation that has been waging war against israel AND has been the aggressor in this conflict, killed israelis for no other reason than being jewish, digs up the water pipes so they can build rockets (and then complains about "OH NO THEY SHUT DOWN THE WATER SUPPLY :((((("), forced their own people to stay in buildings that are bombed (israel warns the population of gaza of incoming attacks) just so they can make a cool social media propaganda post.

                      So yes, I definitely think I'm on the right side. And you should just say that you hate jews and you want them dead instead of trying to talk around it. At least be honest.

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                        The insult wont sting, idiot. Guess what, saying jewish people shouldn't be privileged anymore than any other ethnicity isn't HaTinG jeWs.

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                        When you have privilege, losing that privilege is perceived as persecution. We see a similar phenomenon with snowflake white males in the US spouting misinformation about what DEI is so that they can end it.

                        Fuck the genocidal state of Israel.

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                          Israel has pulled out of gaza by 2005, has provided gaza with free water and electricity and plenty of palestinians went to work in israel every day prior to october. So no, there is no genocide going on. You're just drinking the propaganda cool-aid like a clueless dumbass.

                          Also, support a russia and iran backed terrorist organisation that has been waging war against israel AND has been the aggressor in this conflict, killed israelis for no other reason than being jewish, digs up the water pipes so they can build rockets (and then complains about "OH NO THEY SHUT DOWN THE WATER SUPPLY :((((("), forced their own people to stay in buildings that are bombed (israel warns the population of gaza of incoming attacks) just so they can make a cool social media propaganda post.

                          So yes, I definitely think I'm on the right side. And you should just say that you hate jews and you want them dead instead of trying to talk around it. At least be honest.

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                          They wouldn't need "free" water, electricity, or go to Israel for a job if they had autonomy.

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                            Israel has pulled out of gaza by 2005, has provided gaza with free water and electricity and plenty of palestinians went to work in israel every day prior to october. So no, there is no genocide going on. You're just drinking the propaganda cool-aid like a clueless dumbass.

                            Also, support a russia and iran backed terrorist organisation that has been waging war against israel AND has been the aggressor in this conflict, killed israelis for no other reason than being jewish, digs up the water pipes so they can build rockets (and then complains about "OH NO THEY SHUT DOWN THE WATER SUPPLY :((((("), forced their own people to stay in buildings that are bombed (israel warns the population of gaza of incoming attacks) just so they can make a cool social media propaganda post.

                            So yes, I definitely think I'm on the right side. And you should just say that you hate jews and you want them dead instead of trying to talk around it. At least be honest.

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                            Everything you said is false.

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                              What? We're talking about the person from Germany chanting "From river to the sea" thingy, which was made illegal in Germany.

                              Of course what that war criminal is doing in Gaza is beyond unethical, but both my comment and article is about what happened in Germany

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                              From the river to the sea Palestine will be free

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                                Israel has pulled out of gaza by 2005, has provided gaza with free water and electricity and plenty of palestinians went to work in israel every day prior to october. So no, there is no genocide going on. You're just drinking the propaganda cool-aid like a clueless dumbass.

                                Also, support a russia and iran backed terrorist organisation that has been waging war against israel AND has been the aggressor in this conflict, killed israelis for no other reason than being jewish, digs up the water pipes so they can build rockets (and then complains about "OH NO THEY SHUT DOWN THE WATER SUPPLY :((((("), forced their own people to stay in buildings that are bombed (israel warns the population of gaza of incoming attacks) just so they can make a cool social media propaganda post.

                                So yes, I definitely think I'm on the right side. And you should just say that you hate jews and you want them dead instead of trying to talk around it. At least be honest.

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                                Ehi ehi! I found the zionazi!! How does it feel to swallow this much bibi cum and be satisfied? Did you say thank you to the IDF for killing kids and setting hospitals on fire?

                                “We are so moral and everyone hates us. Are these rocks khamas???? I think someone need to change my diaper.”

                                do you want me to send you some israeli citizens saying this? Cause the internet is full of these.

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                                  Germans are super sensitive about it because they exported billions of euros of weapons to Israel. Follow the money

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                                  Completely false.

                                  Those are reperation payments from WW2 and Germany stopped weapon exports to Israel.

                                  https://www.reuters.com/world/germany-has-stopped-approving-war-weapons-exports-israel-source-says-2024-09-18/

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                                    Ehi ehi! I found the zionazi!! How does it feel to swallow this much bibi cum and be satisfied? Did you say thank you to the IDF for killing kids and setting hospitals on fire?

                                    “We are so moral and everyone hates us. Are these rocks khamas???? I think someone need to change my diaper.”

                                    do you want me to send you some israeli citizens saying this? Cause the internet is full of these.

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                                    setting hospitals on fire

                                    The hamas is using civilian buildings like hospitals, schools etc as bases. So yes - they are being bombed.

                                    Reading the rest of your brainfart, any discussion with you is futile tho.

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                                      They wouldn't need "free" water, electricity, or go to Israel for a job if they had autonomy.

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                                      How does that change the fact that there is no genocide going on.

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                                        What? We're talking about the person from Germany chanting "From river to the sea" thingy, which was made illegal in Germany.

                                        Of course what that war criminal is doing in Gaza is beyond unethical, but both my comment and article is about what happened in Germany

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                                        Ah ok, fair enough. I did read the article, but I didn't realise that was what you were talking about - perhaps quoting the bit you're responding to would stop me and others being confused.

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                                          Germany has recently taken a chilling new step, signalling its willingness to use political views as grounds to curb migration. Authorities are now moving to deport foreign nationals for participating in pro-Palestine actions. As I reported this week in the Intercept, four people in Berlin – three EU citizens and one US citizen – are set to be deported over their involvement in demonstrations against Israel’s war on Gaza. None of the four have been convicted of a crime, and yet the authorities are seeking to simply throw them out of the country.

                                          The accusations against them include aggravated breach of the peace and obstruction of a police arrest. Reports from last year suggest that one of the actions they were alleged to have been involved in included breaking into a university building and threatening people with objects that could have been used as potential weapons.

                                          But the deportation orders go further. They cite a broader list of alleged behaviours: chanting slogans such as “Free Gaza” and “From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free”, joining road blockades (a tactic frequently used by climate activists), and calling a police officer a “fascist”. Read closely, the real charge appears to be something more basic: protest itself.

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                                          So, once a nazi, always a nazi, it seems. Carved Hakenkreuzes in foreheads for all of them.

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