Germany is now deporting pro-Palestine EU citizens. This is a chilling new step | Hanno Hauenstein
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Bro defends a terrorist organisation that wants to eradicate an entire religion and thinks he's on the right side.
I fucking can't lmao.
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What? We're talking about the person from Germany chanting "From river to the sea" thingy, which was made illegal in Germany.
Of course what that war criminal is doing in Gaza is beyond unethical, but both my comment and article is about what happened in Germany
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What mentality do you mean? The obedience? I feel like it’s more nuanced than that. Yes, following the rules everyone agreed on is lived in a rather inflexible way. If you think about it though, that’s democracy. It’s a commitment to the compromise. The unwritten contract between the majority and the minority. We recognize that the moment you start thinking "I don’t like this law, so I won’t follow it", democracy falls apart. People here want law and order even for laws they disagree with, because collectively that means that laws they agree with will also be followed by everyone.
There are limits though. While I agree that it’s scary to see the AFD become more and more popular, I disagree with your prediction. The idea of "never again" regarding the Holocaust guides every single part of public life. There are not many Germans who would say they are proud of their country. Only every two years, when Germany plays soccer in the international leagues, flying a German flag does not feel weird. Shame for your own country. That’s what Germans think everyone expects us to feel.
Strong military? We’re watching you. Your Great-Grandfather did what? Be sorry. Proud of Germany? How dare you.
The very first words of our constitution ("Human dignity is untouchable.") are a testament to the Holocaust. It’s an incredibly well chosen sentence that every single law is measured against. We know the entire world expects us to uphold this principle forever.
I am not arguing against the danger for democracy that the AFD poses. It’s very real. But in Germany we even have a law to actually make parties illegal that are against the constitution, most importantly the first sentence of it.
So, if Germans are obedient to the law, and the most important principle of our law makes anything even close to the Holocaust illegal, isn’t obedience a good thing then? The real question is, would Germans decide to just accept unconstitutional laws, or rather insist on upholding the constitution? I think the huge protests in the past months have made clear that many people are already standing up for the constitution. Not because they just follow rules blindly, but because they actually believe in the principles of compromise, democracy and dignity.
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I was responding to your original premise, that "Germans never stopped being Nazis" - and you know it. Don't try to feign outrage at being called out for condemning an entire country's people ("Germans") for the actions of a few (The Berlin Senate Administration.)
Do better, and perhaps people will earnestly engage with you for the better instead of just getting upset with you.
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That's a good point, because the protestors took a building by force and threatened staff and students with violence, while also smashing electronics into pieces.
I don't think protests should go as far as to instill fear into innocent citizens.
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You defend a genocidal state that is carpet bombing civilians and commiting war crime everyday God makes and you think you're on the right side?
Israel has pulled out of gaza by 2005, has provided gaza with free water and electricity and plenty of palestinians went to work in israel every day prior to october. So no, there is no genocide going on. You're just drinking the propaganda cool-aid like a clueless dumbass.
Also, support a russia and iran backed terrorist organisation that has been waging war against israel AND has been the aggressor in this conflict, killed israelis for no other reason than being jewish, digs up the water pipes so they can build rockets (and then complains about "OH NO THEY SHUT DOWN THE WATER SUPPLY :((((("), forced their own people to stay in buildings that are bombed (israel warns the population of gaza of incoming attacks) just so they can make a cool social media propaganda post.
So yes, I definitely think I'm on the right side. And you should just say that you hate jews and you want them dead instead of trying to talk around it. At least be honest.
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The insult wont sting, idiot. Guess what, saying jewish people shouldn't be privileged anymore than any other ethnicity isn't HaTinG jeWs.
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Israel has pulled out of gaza by 2005, has provided gaza with free water and electricity and plenty of palestinians went to work in israel every day prior to october. So no, there is no genocide going on. You're just drinking the propaganda cool-aid like a clueless dumbass.
Also, support a russia and iran backed terrorist organisation that has been waging war against israel AND has been the aggressor in this conflict, killed israelis for no other reason than being jewish, digs up the water pipes so they can build rockets (and then complains about "OH NO THEY SHUT DOWN THE WATER SUPPLY :((((("), forced their own people to stay in buildings that are bombed (israel warns the population of gaza of incoming attacks) just so they can make a cool social media propaganda post.
So yes, I definitely think I'm on the right side. And you should just say that you hate jews and you want them dead instead of trying to talk around it. At least be honest.
They wouldn't need "free" water, electricity, or go to Israel for a job if they had autonomy.
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Israel has pulled out of gaza by 2005, has provided gaza with free water and electricity and plenty of palestinians went to work in israel every day prior to october. So no, there is no genocide going on. You're just drinking the propaganda cool-aid like a clueless dumbass.
Also, support a russia and iran backed terrorist organisation that has been waging war against israel AND has been the aggressor in this conflict, killed israelis for no other reason than being jewish, digs up the water pipes so they can build rockets (and then complains about "OH NO THEY SHUT DOWN THE WATER SUPPLY :((((("), forced their own people to stay in buildings that are bombed (israel warns the population of gaza of incoming attacks) just so they can make a cool social media propaganda post.
So yes, I definitely think I'm on the right side. And you should just say that you hate jews and you want them dead instead of trying to talk around it. At least be honest.
Everything you said is false.
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What? We're talking about the person from Germany chanting "From river to the sea" thingy, which was made illegal in Germany.
Of course what that war criminal is doing in Gaza is beyond unethical, but both my comment and article is about what happened in Germany
From the river to the sea Palestine will be free
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Israel has pulled out of gaza by 2005, has provided gaza with free water and electricity and plenty of palestinians went to work in israel every day prior to october. So no, there is no genocide going on. You're just drinking the propaganda cool-aid like a clueless dumbass.
Also, support a russia and iran backed terrorist organisation that has been waging war against israel AND has been the aggressor in this conflict, killed israelis for no other reason than being jewish, digs up the water pipes so they can build rockets (and then complains about "OH NO THEY SHUT DOWN THE WATER SUPPLY :((((("), forced their own people to stay in buildings that are bombed (israel warns the population of gaza of incoming attacks) just so they can make a cool social media propaganda post.
So yes, I definitely think I'm on the right side. And you should just say that you hate jews and you want them dead instead of trying to talk around it. At least be honest.
Ehi ehi! I found the zionazi!! How does it feel to swallow this much bibi cum and be satisfied? Did you say thank you to the IDF for killing kids and setting hospitals on fire?
“We are so moral and everyone hates us. Are these rocks khamas???? I think someone need to change my diaper.”
do you want me to send you some israeli citizens saying this? Cause the internet is full of these.
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Germans are super sensitive about it because they exported billions of euros of weapons to Israel. Follow the money
Completely false.
Those are reperation payments from WW2 and Germany stopped weapon exports to Israel.
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Ehi ehi! I found the zionazi!! How does it feel to swallow this much bibi cum and be satisfied? Did you say thank you to the IDF for killing kids and setting hospitals on fire?
“We are so moral and everyone hates us. Are these rocks khamas???? I think someone need to change my diaper.”
do you want me to send you some israeli citizens saying this? Cause the internet is full of these.
setting hospitals on fire
The hamas is using civilian buildings like hospitals, schools etc as bases. So yes - they are being bombed.
Reading the rest of your brainfart, any discussion with you is futile tho.
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They wouldn't need "free" water, electricity, or go to Israel for a job if they had autonomy.
How does that change the fact that there is no genocide going on.
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What? We're talking about the person from Germany chanting "From river to the sea" thingy, which was made illegal in Germany.
Of course what that war criminal is doing in Gaza is beyond unethical, but both my comment and article is about what happened in Germany
Ah ok, fair enough. I did read the article, but I didn't realise that was what you were talking about - perhaps quoting the bit you're responding to would stop me and others being confused.
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Germany has recently taken a chilling new step, signalling its willingness to use political views as grounds to curb migration. Authorities are now moving to deport foreign nationals for participating in pro-Palestine actions. As I reported this week in the Intercept, four people in Berlin – three EU citizens and one US citizen – are set to be deported over their involvement in demonstrations against Israel’s war on Gaza. None of the four have been convicted of a crime, and yet the authorities are seeking to simply throw them out of the country.
The accusations against them include aggravated breach of the peace and obstruction of a police arrest. Reports from last year suggest that one of the actions they were alleged to have been involved in included breaking into a university building and threatening people with objects that could have been used as potential weapons.
But the deportation orders go further. They cite a broader list of alleged behaviours: chanting slogans such as “Free Gaza” and “From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free”, joining road blockades (a tactic frequently used by climate activists), and calling a police officer a “fascist”. Read closely, the real charge appears to be something more basic: protest itself.
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Is your premise that people cannot see the errors of their ways and therefore cannot change?
Or are you presenting facts in an attempt to imply that all this time there's been a shadow Nazi government? Or..?
I don't know if you're aware of this, but during the war years, everyone had to be a member of the Nazi party. All youth groups that weren't official Nazi organizations were banned.In the years between WWII and German reunification, there was an active effort to stamp out Nazi ideals in the West. Children learned in graphic detail what atrocities were committed, and many of them took those learnings to heart. To this day, spending on military in Germany, surveillance by the state, are fraught topics. German politics couldn't be further from a 1 or 2 party system.
What was informs but doesn't dictate what is. I have spent a lot of time in Germany, and I'm certain that in spite of the rise of AfD, Germany is the European country furthest from Nazi ideals.
people cannot see the errors of their ways and therefore cannot change
Not when they are immersed in a roiling pot of fascist propaganda, no. You can't see error when you are surrounded by media justifying your decisions. You can't find the will to change when you've been told again and again that circumstances are beyond your control.
Right now, German media is as bad as anything the MAGA Americans are churning out, with migrant hysteria and xenophobia hitting a fevered pitch. Combined with the energy crisis in Europe and the economic downturn globally, it's a recipe for a new wave of Fascist dictatorship that Germans as rapidly buying into once again.
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Everything you said is false.
Oh really?
Hamas literally made a "recruitment video" about digging up water pipes: https://youtu.be/04NB27x138Y
The part where israel warns the population is true tho - confirmed by many people who literally got these messages on their phones. A german journalist even showed the message he received while being near gaza. Also, why do you think videos exist where the cam is lying on the ground BEFORE the attack hits? Because they know in advance.
The part of "forced their own people to stay in buildings that are bombed" I can't proof tbf - however, there are big indicators like people showing signs of restraint in bombed buildings, indicating they were tied to a chair or something similar to avoid escape. Hamas traditionally haven't given a rats ass about the population, so this isn't even far fetched and a realistic scenario.
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Completely false.
Those are reperation payments from WW2 and Germany stopped weapon exports to Israel.
Have you even read the article you’re citing? It literally says :
The Economy Ministry said on Thursday there was no ban on arms exports to Israel and there would not be one
Also, German arms exports to Israel increase, contradicting government reports
Germany's arms exports to Israel are much higher than the government said they were, with new numbers showing the government approved exports worth €94 million since August alone.
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Germany has recently taken a chilling new step, signalling its willingness to use political views as grounds to curb migration. Authorities are now moving to deport foreign nationals for participating in pro-Palestine actions. As I reported this week in the Intercept, four people in Berlin – three EU citizens and one US citizen – are set to be deported over their involvement in demonstrations against Israel’s war on Gaza. None of the four have been convicted of a crime, and yet the authorities are seeking to simply throw them out of the country.
The accusations against them include aggravated breach of the peace and obstruction of a police arrest. Reports from last year suggest that one of the actions they were alleged to have been involved in included breaking into a university building and threatening people with objects that could have been used as potential weapons.
But the deportation orders go further. They cite a broader list of alleged behaviours: chanting slogans such as “Free Gaza” and “From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free”, joining road blockades (a tactic frequently used by climate activists), and calling a police officer a “fascist”. Read closely, the real charge appears to be something more basic: protest itself.
Zionists on the post 4 days ago were less quirky than on this one.
Beautiful display of this brainrot ideology, if you can’t deny it, it’s antisemitism…
If a Genocide wasn’t being conducted against Palestinians, it would be comical how detached these people are.