This should be a well know, but often misunderstood thing.
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This should be a well know, but often misunderstood thing. Lots of reddit selfhosting threds urge people to buy a new mini-pc for its "low power draw" when usually its the same or 1-2watts less then a laptop from 2012. However performace to watt is much higher, so if you need massive preformance new is much better, if your system is idling most of the time anyway, basically no diffrence in buying old
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This should be a well know, but often misunderstood thing. Lots of reddit selfhosting threds urge people to buy a new mini-pc for its "low power draw" when usually its the same or 1-2watts less then a laptop from 2012. However performace to watt is much higher, so if you need massive preformance new is much better, if your system is idling most of the time anyway, basically no diffrence in buying old
You just can't buy too old or the inverse happens and the performance per watt drops. I think you're right that 2012 is about the cutoff. Maybe 2007 for certain items, like my 2007 iMac. But if you're getting back to the Pentium 4 era you've gone too far and need to turn back around.
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You just can't buy too old or the inverse happens and the performance per watt drops. I think you're right that 2012 is about the cutoff. Maybe 2007 for certain items, like my 2007 iMac. But if you're getting back to the Pentium 4 era you've gone too far and need to turn back around.
No, the graphics from Intel back in 07-10 were crap. 2012-2013 would be my bare minimum, usb3 if only for loading a new OS.
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You just can't buy too old or the inverse happens and the performance per watt drops. I think you're right that 2012 is about the cutoff. Maybe 2007 for certain items, like my 2007 iMac. But if you're getting back to the Pentium 4 era you've gone too far and need to turn back around.
Oh god, P4? Yea, those were just 100 watt light bulbs.
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No, the graphics from Intel back in 07-10 were crap. 2012-2013 would be my bare minimum, usb3 if only for loading a new OS.
No, the graphics from Intel back in 07-10 were crap.
What are you using graphics on a server for instead of just CLI?
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No, the graphics from Intel back in 07-10 were crap.
What are you using graphics on a server for instead of just CLI?
Transcoding video for streaming.
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Transcoding video for streaming.
How much video is really needed for transcoding?
I ask because I need to get a video card for transcoding to a 65" 4k TV. I'm converting all my DVDs to MKV and using Jellyfin as my server and client. It transcodes lighter stuff fine (cartoons, old TV shows), but better movies get some artifacts that don't occur if I have the TV play the same file from a thumb drive.
I've read Jellyfin's recommendation, but it's really just "use at least this video chipset", not a particular card, so I'm trying to determine what card I should get.
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Oh god, P4? Yea, those were just 100 watt light bulbs.
My first computer was 33htz. Ran Windows 3.1. And Warcraft 2.
So yeah. The perfect computer.
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How much video is really needed for transcoding?
I ask because I need to get a video card for transcoding to a 65" 4k TV. I'm converting all my DVDs to MKV and using Jellyfin as my server and client. It transcodes lighter stuff fine (cartoons, old TV shows), but better movies get some artifacts that don't occur if I have the TV play the same file from a thumb drive.
I've read Jellyfin's recommendation, but it's really just "use at least this video chipset", not a particular card, so I'm trying to determine what card I should get.
Server to TV should be local, why are you transcoding? I watch 4K files on my 4K TV without issues, with Kodi because I don't need Jellyfin for that.
I use Jellyfin to stream when I'm outside my home, and transcoding 4K is what takes a lot of resources.
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This should be a well know, but often misunderstood thing. Lots of reddit selfhosting threds urge people to buy a new mini-pc for its "low power draw" when usually its the same or 1-2watts less then a laptop from 2012. However performace to watt is much higher, so if you need massive preformance new is much better, if your system is idling most of the time anyway, basically no diffrence in buying old
For my first server, after moving on from 2 raspberrys to a Proxmox host, I went with an embedded Asrock MB, passively cooled so you know it wasn't drawing much power, still had multiple SATA ports and with the right sticks I could get 32GB RAM in.
Seems better to me than a minipc where you have no expandability, especially no chance for RAID.
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How much video is really needed for transcoding?
I ask because I need to get a video card for transcoding to a 65" 4k TV. I'm converting all my DVDs to MKV and using Jellyfin as my server and client. It transcodes lighter stuff fine (cartoons, old TV shows), but better movies get some artifacts that don't occur if I have the TV play the same file from a thumb drive.
I've read Jellyfin's recommendation, but it's really just "use at least this video chipset", not a particular card, so I'm trying to determine what card I should get.
You don't really want to live transcode 4K. That's a tremendous amount of horsepower required to go real time. When you rip your movies you want to make sure they're in some format that whatever player you're using can handle. If that means that you use a streaming stick in your TV instead of the app on your TV that's what you do. I think you could technically do it with a 10th+ gen Intel with embedded video. I know that a Nvidia 2070 super on a 7th gen Intel will not get the job done for an upper and Roku. So all of my 4K video is either h264 or HEVC so it all direct plays on my flavor of Roku.
