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New Bill to Effectively Kill Anime & Other Piracy in the U.S. Gets Backing by Netflix, Disney & Sony

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  • A [email protected]

    It's a slippery slope. Soon they will make doing illegal things a crime.

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    #98

    They could take it a step further and threaten penalties for doing illegal things.

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      If you use a US-based VPN, you fucked up yourself.

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      Viva la Mullvad. I was sick of being bullied into buying more to get a deal. It may not be the cheapest, but I love that it's the same price across the board.

      Plus, the only way you're going to get anything cheaper is by locking into a 1-3 year plan when you may not even need it every month.

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        It is impossible to ban piracy. The whole concept is that it's not legal to begin with.

        I bet Lars Ulrich is so proud that he killed music piracy back when he killed napster.

        Except wait.....no he didn't he killed A service. Meaning singular. The concept of piracy moved on. We got limewire and torrents.

        The ONLY thing that has slowed (if not stopped) music piracy is making the content readily and easily available in a convienent consumption method at a reasonable price.

        Shocking, I know.

        The invention of iTunes CHARGING money for music in a (at the time) new more convienent method of music consumption at a reasonable price did leaps and bounds more to destroy piracy than Napsters downfall ever could.

        Now if only video services would learn this lession. Because it's the same lession. I don't know how they missed the memo on this.

        Put your video in one centralized place. Make it hassle free to watch. Charge a reasonable price. Piracy dies overnight.

        And just to prove it, show of hands. Who here would go through the effort and risk of pirating, if Netflix had everything you wanted to watch, for $5 a month? Who here would say no, and still pirate? Reply below and tell me if you would still pirate with those conditions?

        But instead, netflix is pushing $20 a month, and the video hosting is fractured among multiple hosts, all of which overcharge, AND want to serve ads.

        Oh hey, right on cue. It's a skull and bones flag approaching.

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        Word... this is why I used spotify for a long time, when it used to be a good service... pirating wasn't worth the hassle.

        now almost everything is worth the hassle

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        • D [email protected]

          But they can make up excuses for their arsenal for whenever they want to ban a site they don't like from common eyes.

          "It was banned because it was pornography"

          "It was banned because it was displaying pirated content"

          "It was banned because it harmed the public good"

          They want control over what the common people can see, hear, say, and think.

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          Yeah, but for every dictator there's countless intelligent revolutionaries. Especially when it comes to the internet.

          They're really shooting themselves in the foot trying to deny us/force overcharge the very thing they use to make us complacent in the first place: media.

          If they were smart they'd ignore this bill. It would just bring attention to their attempt to essentially seize the internet and for what? For us just to get around it again anyway?

          Not to mention if they enforce US VPNs to conform it'll just result in more currency leaving the country. No wonder this fucking floundering economy is all our fault.

          Governing is like holding a marble to the table with your thumb. The more you press down, the more likely that marble is to shoot out and break your shit.

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            Corporate legislation, making America Great as always.

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            Best laws money can buy!

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            • ratzchatsubo@lemm.eeR [email protected]

              Who pays for vpns anymore. Isn't proton VPN free?

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              How does proton cover that expense?

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                It's a slippery slope. Soon they will make doing illegal things a crime.

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                #104

                But not if they're the ones doing the illegal stuff, apparently.

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                  Do they not know the concept of piracy? That's like Walmart and Target backing a new bill to stop shoplifting.

                  They could just make a better service. Between the password sharing, and everything being scattered everywhere, what did they expect? I'm going to pay for half a dozen services and still not get to watch what I want? Or I may be able to watch it and pay for the privilege to see ubskippable ads? You can only beat us with so many sticks before we stop feeling it. Cole back with a carrot.

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                    I want to like GoG but their Linux support can be pretty awful at times. It took over a week for X4 to update the Linux version on GoG compared to steam that in the end I refunded it and bought on steam. Also proton is pretty nice to have.

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                    Yeah, GoGo need to improve their Linux support since at the moment they seem to just "go along with it" without putting any effort into it

                    That said, with stuff like Lutris (can only speak of that since I never used Heroic) which can use GoG's API to access your account and download games and has GoG-specific install scripts, it's also a reasonably seamless experience to game in Linux from GoG and none of it is tied to a proprietary vendor solution like Steam + Proton, so it's a lot more flexible and friendly for those who want to do their own tweaking - for example all my games in Lutris run sandboxed using firejail for extra security and blocking network access, but I can't do that for Steam.

                    GoG is pretty much a totally open solution (you need not use their API and can just download an offline installer and install it however you see fit) whilst Steam is tracking and controlling your installs and in some cases game playing, so that means gaming with Steam is much more tightly coupled to both their code and their servers and thus Steam is always going to be more ill-fitted to the traditional hacker ethos in Linux that GoG.

                    Finally, keep in mind that Steam's enhanced Linux support is just a natural consequence of their strategy of trying to protect themselves from any Microsoft funny business with Windows by creating their own Windows-independent ecosystem, with Linux being a natural shortcut to do so cheaply.

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                    • ratzchatsubo@lemm.eeR [email protected]

                      Who pays for vpns anymore. Isn't proton VPN free?

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                      kinda, but you have to pay for access to more than 3 servers. protonvpn has a paid tier (faster speeds, more servers, p2p support) -- which people do pay for -- putting them in the 'okay' category.

                      also, it's a general rule that all 'completely free!' vpns sell your data, keep and sell logs(thats why they can afford to be free), have really slow speeds due to user overloads etc.

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                        Do they not know the concept of piracy? That's like Walmart and Target backing a new bill to stop shoplifting.

                        They could just make a better service. Between the password sharing, and everything being scattered everywhere, what did they expect? I'm going to pay for half a dozen services and still not get to watch what I want? Or I may be able to watch it and pay for the privilege to see ubskippable ads? You can only beat us with so many sticks before we stop feeling it. Cole back with a carrot.

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                        It's much harder when all your ISPs and the world's largest DNS resolvers block the IPs or resolving the DNS, which is what this dystopian bill proposes. Make no mistake, this is Orwellian censorship masquerading as piracy protection.

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                          kinda, but you have to pay for access to more than 3 servers. protonvpn has a paid tier (faster speeds, more servers, p2p support) -- which people do pay for -- putting them in the 'okay' category.

                          also, it's a general rule that all 'completely free!' vpns sell your data, keep and sell logs(thats why they can afford to be free), have really slow speeds due to user overloads etc.

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                          I only use vpns for porn hub lol so I guess I didn't realize people need vpns for more than that haha

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                            How does proton cover that expense?

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                            By enticing you to pay for their office suite

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                            • remembertheapollo_@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                              Oh. Making something illegal illegal again? That’ll be effective.

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                              It'll be super duper illegal

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                                Brilliant. Make murder illegal now.

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                                  Best laws money can buy!

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                                  Same with freedom lol.

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                                    I checked it again and its STILL at 0 Cosponsors and sitting in the committees inbox if it wasn't already rejected.

                                    https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/791

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                                      Corporate legislation, making America Great as always.

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                                      Not in this particular case, not yet, you can view it's status HERE and it's still at 0 cosponsors.

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                                        is anime a form of Piracy?! One Piece I guess?!

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                                          Stop hiking prices on streaming services and making them awful to use while ending sales of physical media and I won't pirate content.

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