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New Bill to Effectively Kill Anime & Other Piracy in the U.S. Gets Backing by Netflix, Disney & Sony

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  • ratzchatsubo@lemm.eeR [email protected]

    Who pays for vpns anymore. Isn't proton VPN free?

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    How does proton cover that expense?

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      It's a slippery slope. Soon they will make doing illegal things a crime.

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      But not if they're the ones doing the illegal stuff, apparently.

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        Do they not know the concept of piracy? That's like Walmart and Target backing a new bill to stop shoplifting.

        They could just make a better service. Between the password sharing, and everything being scattered everywhere, what did they expect? I'm going to pay for half a dozen services and still not get to watch what I want? Or I may be able to watch it and pay for the privilege to see ubskippable ads? You can only beat us with so many sticks before we stop feeling it. Cole back with a carrot.

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          I want to like GoG but their Linux support can be pretty awful at times. It took over a week for X4 to update the Linux version on GoG compared to steam that in the end I refunded it and bought on steam. Also proton is pretty nice to have.

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          Yeah, GoGo need to improve their Linux support since at the moment they seem to just "go along with it" without putting any effort into it

          That said, with stuff like Lutris (can only speak of that since I never used Heroic) which can use GoG's API to access your account and download games and has GoG-specific install scripts, it's also a reasonably seamless experience to game in Linux from GoG and none of it is tied to a proprietary vendor solution like Steam + Proton, so it's a lot more flexible and friendly for those who want to do their own tweaking - for example all my games in Lutris run sandboxed using firejail for extra security and blocking network access, but I can't do that for Steam.

          GoG is pretty much a totally open solution (you need not use their API and can just download an offline installer and install it however you see fit) whilst Steam is tracking and controlling your installs and in some cases game playing, so that means gaming with Steam is much more tightly coupled to both their code and their servers and thus Steam is always going to be more ill-fitted to the traditional hacker ethos in Linux that GoG.

          Finally, keep in mind that Steam's enhanced Linux support is just a natural consequence of their strategy of trying to protect themselves from any Microsoft funny business with Windows by creating their own Windows-independent ecosystem, with Linux being a natural shortcut to do so cheaply.

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          • ratzchatsubo@lemm.eeR [email protected]

            Who pays for vpns anymore. Isn't proton VPN free?

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            kinda, but you have to pay for access to more than 3 servers. protonvpn has a paid tier (faster speeds, more servers, p2p support) -- which people do pay for -- putting them in the 'okay' category.

            also, it's a general rule that all 'completely free!' vpns sell your data, keep and sell logs(thats why they can afford to be free), have really slow speeds due to user overloads etc.

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            • 2ugly2live@lemmy.world2 [email protected]

              Do they not know the concept of piracy? That's like Walmart and Target backing a new bill to stop shoplifting.

              They could just make a better service. Between the password sharing, and everything being scattered everywhere, what did they expect? I'm going to pay for half a dozen services and still not get to watch what I want? Or I may be able to watch it and pay for the privilege to see ubskippable ads? You can only beat us with so many sticks before we stop feeling it. Cole back with a carrot.

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              It's much harder when all your ISPs and the world's largest DNS resolvers block the IPs or resolving the DNS, which is what this dystopian bill proposes. Make no mistake, this is Orwellian censorship masquerading as piracy protection.

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              • gwen@lemmy.dbzer0.comG [email protected]

                kinda, but you have to pay for access to more than 3 servers. protonvpn has a paid tier (faster speeds, more servers, p2p support) -- which people do pay for -- putting them in the 'okay' category.

                also, it's a general rule that all 'completely free!' vpns sell your data, keep and sell logs(thats why they can afford to be free), have really slow speeds due to user overloads etc.

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                I only use vpns for porn hub lol so I guess I didn't realize people need vpns for more than that haha

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                  How does proton cover that expense?

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                  By enticing you to pay for their office suite

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                  • remembertheapollo_@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                    Oh. Making something illegal illegal again? That’ll be effective.

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                    It'll be super duper illegal

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                      Brilliant. Make murder illegal now.

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                        Best laws money can buy!

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                        Same with freedom lol.

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                          I checked it again and its STILL at 0 Cosponsors and sitting in the committees inbox if it wasn't already rejected.

                          https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/791

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                            Corporate legislation, making America Great as always.

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                            Not in this particular case, not yet, you can view it's status HERE and it's still at 0 cosponsors.

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                              is anime a form of Piracy?! One Piece I guess?!

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                                Stop hiking prices on streaming services and making them awful to use while ending sales of physical media and I won't pirate content.

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                                  It's a slippery slope. Soon they will make doing illegal things a crime.

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                                  Brb connecting to a Chinese VPN so I can access content outside of the US Firewall.

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                                    Not in this particular case, not yet, you can view it's status HERE and it's still at 0 cosponsors.

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                                    Hard to discuss this bill since the text isn't even on there yet. But apparently companies expressing approval have seen it.

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                                    • eyedust@sh.itjust.worksE [email protected]

                                      Viva la Mullvad. I was sick of being bullied into buying more to get a deal. It may not be the cheapest, but I love that it's the same price across the board.

                                      Plus, the only way you're going to get anything cheaper is by locking into a 1-3 year plan when you may not even need it every month.

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                                      I'm locked into ExpressVPN for a year but I was thinking about switching to Mullvad shortly. ExpessVPN isn't bad but being in the British Virgin Islands does give me a bit of anxiety.

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                                        I don't currently sail the high seas, but clamping down on access and making it harder to enjoy content, increasing prices, blocking account sharing, and adding unskippable ads and promos make me want to pirate, just out of spite!

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                                        • cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zoneC [email protected]

                                          This is why you run servers outside of five eye countries

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                                          I have heard that phrase before, but I am unsure what it denotes specifically.

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