Two artists, one catastrophic war … Joe Sacco and Art Spiegelman on Israel-Gaza and the ceasefire – cartoon
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I don't typically cross my "comics" interests with my political interests, but this is fascinating commentary.
Art Spiegelman, notably won a Pulitzer for "Maus" his graphic novel re-telling of his father surviving the Holocaust and his modern era attempt at extracting the story from him.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_Spiegelman
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maus
Joe Sacco has been using the art form as investigative journalism, having published "Palestine" in 2001 and "Footnotes in Gaza" in 2009.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Sacco
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Important to note that people who say "there's no solution to this intractable crisis" are usually disingenuous Zionists pretending to care.
There is a very simple solution which involves one person one vote with equality for all in one state but that is utter anathema to Zionists who are fundamentally racist Jewish supremacists and would prefer genocide or eternal apartheid. That is the real obstacle.
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I have a very special copy of Maus II.
When I was a teenager, one of my dad's professor colleagues had Art Spiegelman come over for a conference, and he had a signing afterward. My dad was the very first person in line and he was one of those "this will be worth something one day** people, so he had Art Spiegelman sign each copy, "To [my dad full's name]." When I was in line next, I gave him my copy and told him my name and he could see we were related, especially since we were talking, so he started signing it, "To [my dad's full name]," and I said that he was signing the wrong name.
So he signed it, "To [my dad's name]'s boy, [my name]," and drew a really good illustration of himself as the mouse from the book underneath it.
Also, fun fact, he was the artist who came up with and drew all the original Garbage Pail Kids.
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*My dad bought four Big Mouth Billy Bass and kept them in their original boxes for that reason. He didn't even like them. -
You kid, but have you seen what you can do with an ARRAY of Billy Bass?
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It would probably be far harder granting Palestinians full and equal rights in a unified Israel than it would be having a functional two state solution, and that's pretty fuckin' hard as it is!
I wish I had the brain power necessary to solve for this one, but I don't. Thousands of years of "But you people did x" and "you people did y first!"
Forgetting the operative word here is "people".
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While quite impressive, I don't believe that was the sort of value he was thinking of. I prefer that sort of value though.
But honestly, he bought them because he thought I'd be able to sell them when he was gone and make a bundle. And yes, I did have to sell them. And all the other stuff he collected, much of which was not worth a lot of money.
To his credit, he did once sell a movie poster at Sotheby's for $70,000. Unfortunately, that just made him think he was even better at predicting value. Especially of movie posters. I have dozens I don't know what to do with and now my wife will be stuck selling most of them off for cheap along with everything else he's left us since I can't take any of it to the UK.
But before the "this will be valuable" thing even kicked in, he was always a collector. Thousands of LPs, and CDs, hundreds of DVDs. Some of them did have significant value- nothing near the value of that poster, but I was doing okay as a full-time eBay retailer for a while- but most of it ended up either given away or, finally, dumped at Goodwill.
Do not leave stuff to your kids unless they really want you to.
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You have (at least) two groups of people with traumatic experiences from mutual violence continuing for generations and you think there is a simple solution?
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There is a precedent set in South Africa
