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Germany decides to leave history in the past and prepare for war

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    Germany's military, the Bundeswehr, recently got the all-clear for a massive increase in investment after parliament voted to exempt defence spending from strict rules on debt.

    The country's top general has told the BBC the cash boost is urgently needed because he believes Russian aggression won't stop at Ukraine.

    "We are threatened by Russia. We are threatened by Putin. We have to do whatever is needed to deter that," Gen Carsten Breuer says. He warns that Nato should be braced for a possible attack in as little as four years.

    "It's not about how much time I need, it's much more about how much time Putin gives us to be prepared," the defence chief says bluntly. "And the sooner we are prepared the better."

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    What choice do we have? I would focus on improving everything for the regulars and copy the Finnish reserve system.

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      Is that why Japan is the only WW II participant who has not fired a shot in anger since August 1945? Japan learned, the rest of you fucks failed miserably and continue to do so.

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      Oh don't get me wrong. The strong adherence to pacifism is laudable. But they have not reckoned with their atrocities committed during and prior world war II. They practically deny them ever happening.

      Your whataboutism is not appreciated.

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        USAmerica has made shit loads off war.

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        And the rest of the world had to pay for it.

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        • M [email protected]

          Its been increasing no matter who has been in office as long as I have been alive. Its never gone down. So your point to me is meaningless.

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          It actually went down during Trumps first term. That fucking idiot even failed in the thing he wanted most.

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            I mean the track record is pretty good as long as you don't just stop at the 20th century.

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            There were no world wars pre 20th century. But yeah, Germany, Prussia and the Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation were pretty successful pre 20th century.

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              Sad to read that people are ok with this.

              Stop contributing to rich people bullshit and step out of the system. Every other move will get us all killed.

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              That suggests you have an alternative, care sharing?

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              • omegalemmy@discuss.onlineO [email protected]

                That suggests you have an alternative, care sharing?

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                Yes. Dying for peace is way better than dying for war. Also stop buying shit, stop paying taxes, build and support alternative networks. Educate yourself and especially the young people around you. Stop building walls, start building bridges. The system only "works" because we believe it does.

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                  for the first time, Germany possibly gets to be the "good guys" in a world war! Quite a turnaround.

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                  World war normally has not good guys. It is that Germany has gone so evil in WW2 that made all others appear the good guys. But in the end they all are evil (countries not people living in them, and no it's not the same).

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                    Yes. Dying for peace is way better than dying for war. Also stop buying shit, stop paying taxes, build and support alternative networks. Educate yourself and especially the young people around you. Stop building walls, start building bridges. The system only "works" because we believe it does.

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                    Oh, you're suggesting an anarcho commune.

                    I'm sure those will work.

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                      I feel like this is a good idea but I also saw what Germany did to Brazil in that World Cup and there needs to be a plan for them going too far and hurting people just for living.

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                      And they did hold back that day, after the first 4 goals +/-, just to avoid embarrassing the host that much further.

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                        Germany, Italy, and Japan go to war against Russia and the US. Only this time the former group is the Good Guys.

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                        Go back to WW1 and you'll have a hard time pointing to good guys. Even WW2 was heavily sketch. The US was halfway in bed with the Nazis under Hoover and only at odds with Japan because it was encroaching on the British opium trade through Hong Kong and Shanghai.

                        These wars were, at their hearts, the end consequences of a century of industrial imperialism. The good guys were in Latin America and North Africa and the South Pacific, fighting for their independence and sovereignty.

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                          Go back to WW1 and you'll have a hard time pointing to good guys. Even WW2 was heavily sketch. The US was halfway in bed with the Nazis under Hoover and only at odds with Japan because it was encroaching on the British opium trade through Hong Kong and Shanghai.

                          These wars were, at their hearts, the end consequences of a century of industrial imperialism. The good guys were in Latin America and North Africa and the South Pacific, fighting for their independence and sovereignty.

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                          You’re taking my shitpost comment way too seriously.

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                            Germany, Italy, and Japan go to war against Russia and the US. Only this time the former group is the Good Guys.

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                            It's the Terminator 2: Judgement Day of wars.

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                              There were no world wars pre 20th century. But yeah, Germany, Prussia and the Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation were pretty successful pre 20th century.

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                              They were actually multiple world Wars pre 20th century.

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                              • omegalemmy@discuss.onlineO [email protected]

                                Oh, you're suggesting an anarcho commune.

                                I'm sure those will work.

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                                will war work? No it wont so better to try something different.

                                Also no i do not mean an anarcho commune. But hey all is better than the slaughter for money we have at the moment.

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                                  Germany's military, the Bundeswehr, recently got the all-clear for a massive increase in investment after parliament voted to exempt defence spending from strict rules on debt.

                                  The country's top general has told the BBC the cash boost is urgently needed because he believes Russian aggression won't stop at Ukraine.

                                  "We are threatened by Russia. We are threatened by Putin. We have to do whatever is needed to deter that," Gen Carsten Breuer says. He warns that Nato should be braced for a possible attack in as little as four years.

                                  "It's not about how much time I need, it's much more about how much time Putin gives us to be prepared," the defence chief says bluntly. "And the sooner we are prepared the better."

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                                  Удачи нахуй ))

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                                    Удачи нахуй ))

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                                    It's going to be German's cumback on Natashkas back and your wife will be the first one

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                                      Go back to WW1 and you'll have a hard time pointing to good guys. Even WW2 was heavily sketch. The US was halfway in bed with the Nazis under Hoover and only at odds with Japan because it was encroaching on the British opium trade through Hong Kong and Shanghai.

                                      These wars were, at their hearts, the end consequences of a century of industrial imperialism. The good guys were in Latin America and North Africa and the South Pacific, fighting for their independence and sovereignty.

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                                      Lieutenant George: The war started because of the vile Hun and his villainous empire-building.

                                      Captain Blackadder: George, the British Empire at present covers a quarter of the globe, while the German Empire consists of a small sausage factory in Tanganiki. I hardly think that we can be entirely absolved of blame on the imperialistic front.

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                                        Germany's military, the Bundeswehr, recently got the all-clear for a massive increase in investment after parliament voted to exempt defence spending from strict rules on debt.

                                        The country's top general has told the BBC the cash boost is urgently needed because he believes Russian aggression won't stop at Ukraine.

                                        "We are threatened by Russia. We are threatened by Putin. We have to do whatever is needed to deter that," Gen Carsten Breuer says. He warns that Nato should be braced for a possible attack in as little as four years.

                                        "It's not about how much time I need, it's much more about how much time Putin gives us to be prepared," the defence chief says bluntly. "And the sooner we are prepared the better."

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                                        I foresee a non-zero chance that this could backfire and their new ever-expanding military budget gets used on smaller weaker nations and then as an excuse to divert funding away from services that people actually rely on.

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                                          Germany's military, the Bundeswehr, recently got the all-clear for a massive increase in investment after parliament voted to exempt defence spending from strict rules on debt.

                                          The country's top general has told the BBC the cash boost is urgently needed because he believes Russian aggression won't stop at Ukraine.

                                          "We are threatened by Russia. We are threatened by Putin. We have to do whatever is needed to deter that," Gen Carsten Breuer says. He warns that Nato should be braced for a possible attack in as little as four years.

                                          "It's not about how much time I need, it's much more about how much time Putin gives us to be prepared," the defence chief says bluntly. "And the sooner we are prepared the better."

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                                          Germant repeats history. More news at 11.

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