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Florida man armed with garden shears survives gator attack before shot, killed by deputies

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  • P [email protected]

    I get what you’re saying. I would agree in almost every case. Not on this one. You try to reason with a violent meth head that is this out of his marbles and see how that turns out for you.

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    No one said to reason with them. Just neutralise them without using a lethal weapon. Mace, batons and manpower will put any unarmed person on the ground.

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    • T [email protected]

      No one said to reason with them. Just neutralise them without using a lethal weapon. Mace, batons and manpower will put any unarmed person on the ground.

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      He wasn’t unarmed.

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      • P [email protected]

        I get what you’re saying. I would agree in almost every case. Not on this one. You try to reason with a violent meth head that is this out of his marbles and see how that turns out for you.

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        If you think killing people is an okay - and only - method of stopping a human, maybe try to learn more options. YouTube is free.

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        • orca@orcas.enjoying.yachtsO [email protected]

          This is a wild story about

          • how running with scissors is a bad idea
          • alligator bites can’t even stop a dude on meth
          • cops continue to have no clue what de-escalation tactics are
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          It's kind of like Florida in a nutshell lol

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          • P [email protected]

            If you think killing people is an okay - and only - method of stopping a human, maybe try to learn more options. YouTube is free.

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            That’s exactly what I said that the only way to stop people is by killing them. Fuck me, some of you are extremely disingenuous.

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            • P [email protected]

              Honestly I think in this case the cops responded as they should. They tried teasing him and that didn’t do anything and then he tried to take a rifle from them. At that point they didn’t have a lot of options.

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              Does no one have a net gun? Nets always work

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              • P [email protected]

                That’s exactly what I said that the only way to stop people is by killing them. Fuck me, some of you are extremely disingenuous.

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                They didn't fucking try to reason, or use reasonable force. They brought a rifle, left their fucking car door open, and killed the dude when he tried to grab it. Meanwhile, no forms of non lethal incapacitation were used. Because they are trained to kill.

                Cops are the bad guy, and they made the issue worse by being there, because they aren't trained to de-escalate.

                I'd rather trust a fucking gator wrangler to be more efficient at stopping him.

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                • P [email protected]

                  How would you suppress a guy that just swam in crocodile infested waters and shrugged off a crocodile bite?

                  Maybe the cops should have tried to ask the erratic, violent meth head trying ti steal their rifles to calm down nicely?

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                  Tons of disarming techniques have been available in martial arts to the world for centuries.

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                  • P [email protected]

                    They didn't fucking try to reason, or use reasonable force. They brought a rifle, left their fucking car door open, and killed the dude when he tried to grab it. Meanwhile, no forms of non lethal incapacitation were used. Because they are trained to kill.

                    Cops are the bad guy, and they made the issue worse by being there, because they aren't trained to de-escalate.

                    I'd rather trust a fucking gator wrangler to be more efficient at stopping him.

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                    Ok next time you see a meth head running about doing shit like this tell people not to call the cops because you’ll stop him by reasoning with him and hugging him.

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                    • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zipP [email protected]

                      Why is it blocked?

                      You might try using Tor

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                      GDPR most likely.

                      It's less effort to geoblock europe than to make sure their site complies. Also their website isn't for europeans, so they have no reason to put in any effort to make it work.

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                      • P [email protected]

                        He wasn’t unarmed.

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                        Japan has man catcher poles that allow you to subdue someone without getting near them. They allow you to hold the person until they get tired or you can get the weapon away from them.

                        These should be standard in every police force.

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                        • P [email protected]

                          Honestly I think in this case the cops responded as they should. They tried teasing him and that didn’t do anything and then he tried to take a rifle from them. At that point they didn’t have a lot of options.

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                          They tried teasing him and that didn’t do anything

                          "HEY FLORIDA MAN! NEE NEER NEE NEER NEEEEEE NEEEERRRR!!! YOU GOT A SMALL WEEEEEIIIIINNNNEEERRRRRR!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!........well that didn't work...SHOOT HIM!!!"

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                          • P [email protected]

                            Ok next time you see a meth head running about doing shit like this tell people not to call the cops because you’ll stop him by reasoning with him and hugging him.

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                            Depends how hard you hug...

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                            • P [email protected]

                              I mean a crocodile and a taser didn’t stop him, I don’t think they would have easily been able to restrain him let alone get close enough to do so without being injured.

                              But it’s fine, I’m not gonna argue this anymore. I’m not gonna convince you otherwise, especially if you’ve never seen a psycho meth head.

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                              I used to work at a junkie hotel. I think you're the one here that's only seen junkies on television.

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                              • P [email protected]

                                They didn't fucking try to reason, or use reasonable force. They brought a rifle, left their fucking car door open, and killed the dude when he tried to grab it. Meanwhile, no forms of non lethal incapacitation were used. Because they are trained to kill.

                                Cops are the bad guy, and they made the issue worse by being there, because they aren't trained to de-escalate.

                                I'd rather trust a fucking gator wrangler to be more efficient at stopping him.

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                                Tasers aren't a form of non-lethal incapacitation?

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                                  Real life being more GTA than actual GTA.

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                                    Tasers aren't a form of non-lethal incapacitation?

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                                    Not really, no.

                                    Tasers can be really fucking dangerous to people. Same with rubber bullets.

                                    Just because its publicly called "non-lethal" doesn't mean they haven't caused a lot of people to die.

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                                      We need more Florida Man stories.

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                                      • P [email protected]

                                        How would you suppress a guy that just swam in crocodile infested waters and shrugged off a crocodile bite?

                                        Maybe the cops should have tried to ask the erratic, violent meth head trying ti steal their rifles to calm down nicely?

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                                        Are you under the impression that the US is the only country with meth? Literally every country mentioned has to deal with meth heads, I assure you. None of them gun those people down. It's a person having a medical emergency, not a rabid animal on the loose.

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                                        • P [email protected]

                                          That’s exactly what I said that the only way to stop people is by killing them. Fuck me, some of you are extremely disingenuous.

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                                          Ah most of these people probably think fighting is like the movies. Sure there might have been a better way did they have it nope.

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