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  • weirdgoespro@lemmy.dbzer0.comW [email protected]

    Anybody who thinks they are breathing clean air just because they banned smoking is kidding themselves. At least the cigarette makes the smoker happy and causes minimal damage to passersby when smoked outside—meanwhile the massive air pollution that companies emit is shortening lifespans of every breather across the globe.

    Sure, don’t smoke inside, whatever, but the criminalization and exclusion of addictive behavior is bullshit, in my opinion, especially when it comes in the form of pearl clutching “for the children”.

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    this is like the only thing a government has done 'for the children' that actually benefits anyone at all

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    • weirdgoespro@lemmy.dbzer0.comW [email protected]

      Anybody who thinks they are breathing clean air just because they banned smoking is kidding themselves. At least the cigarette makes the smoker happy and causes minimal damage to passersby when smoked outside—meanwhile the massive air pollution that companies emit is shortening lifespans of every breather across the globe.

      Sure, don’t smoke inside, whatever, but the criminalization and exclusion of addictive behavior is bullshit, in my opinion, especially when it comes in the form of pearl clutching “for the children”.

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      Let's do both.

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        Good i hope more countries adopt this. Türkiye is terrible for this, lovely country and people but there are smokers almost everywhere.

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          “To protect children” is a stupid reason, but banning smoking anywhere outside of your own home, or spaces expressly dedicated to it, on the other hand, is how it should always have been.

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          • weirdgoespro@lemmy.dbzer0.comW [email protected]

            Anybody who thinks they are breathing clean air just because they banned smoking is kidding themselves. At least the cigarette makes the smoker happy and causes minimal damage to passersby when smoked outside—meanwhile the massive air pollution that companies emit is shortening lifespans of every breather across the globe.

            Sure, don’t smoke inside, whatever, but the criminalization and exclusion of addictive behavior is bullshit, in my opinion, especially when it comes in the form of pearl clutching “for the children”.

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            Most restaurants in France have outdoor seating. Finally can eat without smelling that foul shit.

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            • weirdgoespro@lemmy.dbzer0.comW [email protected]

              Anybody who thinks they are breathing clean air just because they banned smoking is kidding themselves. At least the cigarette makes the smoker happy and causes minimal damage to passersby when smoked outside—meanwhile the massive air pollution that companies emit is shortening lifespans of every breather across the globe.

              Sure, don’t smoke inside, whatever, but the criminalization and exclusion of addictive behavior is bullshit, in my opinion, especially when it comes in the form of pearl clutching “for the children”.

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              Would be if asshole that smoke weren't also promoting other harmfull chemicals as-well but hey, we can get to those next bucko.

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                We've learned as a species that banning people from having bad things doesnt work since other bad people will make their own knockoffs and sell them, so we make using said bad things as PAINFULL as possible to protect everyone else. Win-win go fuck yourselves smoking retards.

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                  Banning children seems like it would be more effective.

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                    Seems like another reason for the French to start a pointless, nationwide riot... Again...

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                      Would be if asshole that smoke weren't also promoting other harmfull chemicals as-well but hey, we can get to those next bucko.

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                      So where do you fall on the natural tobacco brands?

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                        Reasoning aside, i agree that it shouldn’t be permitted outside one’s home

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                          Dang, France is really about to take away the one thing that the USA has always been ahead of them on.

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                            You could say smoking is one of the most human activities ever. Does nothing but actively harm and potentially kill everything around you. Just what we're the best at.

                            But seriously now. Can we speed up smoking bans? Like, everywhere?

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                              The prolific smoking in France really hits home for me when I was subjected to a cloud of smoke on a train platform. I can’t remember the last time my personal space was so violated waiting for a train.

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                                Oh, man! I'm goin'. That's all there is to it. I'm fuckin' goin'.

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                                  I was in Paris just after the Olympics ended and I don’t think I smelled any tobacco at all. Marseille? Cigarettes everywhere. I couldn’t even enjoy eating at the cafés.

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                                    “To protect children” is a stupid reason, but banning smoking anywhere outside of your own home, or spaces expressly dedicated to it, on the other hand, is how it should always have been.

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                                    I'd argue the less prevalent smoking is in public the less likely children will turn to smoking in the future. makes sense to me

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                                    • termaxima@programming.devT [email protected]

                                      “To protect children” is a stupid reason, but banning smoking anywhere outside of your own home, or spaces expressly dedicated to it, on the other hand, is how it should always have been.

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                                      There is an absolute metric shitload of proven scientific evidence that smoke inhalation causes lasting damage to developing lungs and hearts. Do you deny this scientific evidence?

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                                        This comment section is a disaster, just as bad as reddit. Comments of no substance on the side of popular opinion get upvotes, and waves of downvotes come for anyone who disagrees even a little, and even if they do it in a reasonable way.

                                        I’m mildly asthmatic so I don’t smoke, vape, etc. I have tried a few times and it is simply too much for my lungs to cope with. I still think banning people from smoking in public parks or on beaches is a bit much, and not doing the same with vaping seems like a strange double standard. I had a college roommate who both vaped and smoked, and the vaping bothered me more. I still put up with it.

                                        Hopefully enforcement is reasonable - respectful smokers who deliberately try to keep their distance should be allowed to enjoy themselves, but I understand prosecuting(?) those who show no care and smoke right next to nonsmokers.

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                                          This comment section is a disaster, just as bad as reddit. Comments of no substance on the side of popular opinion get upvotes, and waves of downvotes come for anyone who disagrees even a little, and even if they do it in a reasonable way.

                                          I’m mildly asthmatic so I don’t smoke, vape, etc. I have tried a few times and it is simply too much for my lungs to cope with. I still think banning people from smoking in public parks or on beaches is a bit much, and not doing the same with vaping seems like a strange double standard. I had a college roommate who both vaped and smoked, and the vaping bothered me more. I still put up with it.

                                          Hopefully enforcement is reasonable - respectful smokers who deliberately try to keep their distance should be allowed to enjoy themselves, but I understand prosecuting(?) those who show no care and smoke right next to nonsmokers.

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                                          You just need to find the right community preferably where there are no bots, trolls

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