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France to ban smoking outdoors in most places to protect children

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    Seems like another reason for the French to start a pointless, nationwide riot... Again...

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      Would be if asshole that smoke weren't also promoting other harmfull chemicals as-well but hey, we can get to those next bucko.

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      So where do you fall on the natural tobacco brands?

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        Reasoning aside, i agree that it shouldn’t be permitted outside one’s home

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          Dang, France is really about to take away the one thing that the USA has always been ahead of them on.

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            You could say smoking is one of the most human activities ever. Does nothing but actively harm and potentially kill everything around you. Just what we're the best at.

            But seriously now. Can we speed up smoking bans? Like, everywhere?

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              The prolific smoking in France really hits home for me when I was subjected to a cloud of smoke on a train platform. I can’t remember the last time my personal space was so violated waiting for a train.

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                Oh, man! I'm goin'. That's all there is to it. I'm fuckin' goin'.

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                  I was in Paris just after the Olympics ended and I don’t think I smelled any tobacco at all. Marseille? Cigarettes everywhere. I couldn’t even enjoy eating at the cafés.

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                  • termaxima@programming.devT [email protected]

                    “To protect children” is a stupid reason, but banning smoking anywhere outside of your own home, or spaces expressly dedicated to it, on the other hand, is how it should always have been.

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                    I'd argue the less prevalent smoking is in public the less likely children will turn to smoking in the future. makes sense to me

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                    • termaxima@programming.devT [email protected]

                      “To protect children” is a stupid reason, but banning smoking anywhere outside of your own home, or spaces expressly dedicated to it, on the other hand, is how it should always have been.

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                      There is an absolute metric shitload of proven scientific evidence that smoke inhalation causes lasting damage to developing lungs and hearts. Do you deny this scientific evidence?

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                        This comment section is a disaster, just as bad as reddit. Comments of no substance on the side of popular opinion get upvotes, and waves of downvotes come for anyone who disagrees even a little, and even if they do it in a reasonable way.

                        I’m mildly asthmatic so I don’t smoke, vape, etc. I have tried a few times and it is simply too much for my lungs to cope with. I still think banning people from smoking in public parks or on beaches is a bit much, and not doing the same with vaping seems like a strange double standard. I had a college roommate who both vaped and smoked, and the vaping bothered me more. I still put up with it.

                        Hopefully enforcement is reasonable - respectful smokers who deliberately try to keep their distance should be allowed to enjoy themselves, but I understand prosecuting(?) those who show no care and smoke right next to nonsmokers.

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                          This comment section is a disaster, just as bad as reddit. Comments of no substance on the side of popular opinion get upvotes, and waves of downvotes come for anyone who disagrees even a little, and even if they do it in a reasonable way.

                          I’m mildly asthmatic so I don’t smoke, vape, etc. I have tried a few times and it is simply too much for my lungs to cope with. I still think banning people from smoking in public parks or on beaches is a bit much, and not doing the same with vaping seems like a strange double standard. I had a college roommate who both vaped and smoked, and the vaping bothered me more. I still put up with it.

                          Hopefully enforcement is reasonable - respectful smokers who deliberately try to keep their distance should be allowed to enjoy themselves, but I understand prosecuting(?) those who show no care and smoke right next to nonsmokers.

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                          You just need to find the right community preferably where there are no bots, trolls

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                            You could say smoking is one of the most human activities ever. Does nothing but actively harm and potentially kill everything around you. Just what we're the best at.

                            But seriously now. Can we speed up smoking bans? Like, everywhere?

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                            But seriously now. Can we speed up smoking bans? Like, everywhere?

                            Some European countries, including mine, has decided to raise the smoking age by 1 every year, essentially banning the next generation from smoking. Not really rapid or speeding up, but future is looking good

                            There was a slight problem where some people were allowed to smoke for portion of the year after birthday and before the age increase, for every year

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                              To protect children, meanwhile the soil is filled with cancer-inducing products pumped away illegally by big chemistry plants. In belgium and netherlands we can barely eat our own produce thanks to this. When are we gonna ban them??

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                                To protect children, meanwhile the soil is filled with cancer-inducing products pumped away illegally by big chemistry plants. In belgium and netherlands we can barely eat our own produce thanks to this. When are we gonna ban them??

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                                Ban children!?

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                                  Uplifting news. All smoking does is burn a hole in wallet. Least drinking and prescription drugs do something.

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                                    To protect children, meanwhile the soil is filled with cancer-inducing products pumped away illegally by big chemistry plants. In belgium and netherlands we can barely eat our own produce thanks to this. When are we gonna ban them??

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                                    GOOD point. They shouldn't ban cigarettes until everything else bad is also banned.

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                                      There is an absolute metric shitload of proven scientific evidence that smoke inhalation causes lasting damage to developing lungs and hearts. Do you deny this scientific evidence?

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                                      I took it to mean that we should protect everything and everybody, not just the children. I could be wrong in my interpretation.

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                                      • termaxima@programming.devT [email protected]

                                        “To protect children” is a stupid reason, but banning smoking anywhere outside of your own home, or spaces expressly dedicated to it, on the other hand, is how it should always have been.

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                                        Smoking should be banned. Full stop. When my neighbours smoke I can't even open my window, I have asthma. The smell attaches to the walls. There is also my kitchen where I cook and I can't enjoy my little place outside because it constantly smells cigarette because they smoke regulary.

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                                          I love how everyone supporting this just assumes you'll still be able to smoke at your own home when it doesn't saying anything of the sort. It explicitly states 'where children COULD be present'. This is literally everywhere short of some BDSM dungeon. This is basically going to make the population choose between smoking and having kids.

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