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I think my server might not be a fan of the upcoming heatwave

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  • sighunter@lemmy.kde.socialS [email protected]

    Just yesterday I took measures to keep temp down further, powersave cpu governor, always full fan speed, 12 disks go to sleep after 60 min of inactivity and I removed dust for better ventilation. My NAS/server is in the attic and today theres 37°C outside

    Disks were around 50°C which is too hot

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    I hobestly don't know how much of this temperature is the server and how much is just it beeing in a badly ventilated spot under the ceiling.

    I don't really do disk spindown as they are active most of the time anyways (Zfs spends most of the time scrubbing).

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      The sensor is located on the case (not near the exhaust) of the server. With the structure of my appartment this is the only place I can realistically put my Server but sadly also the hottest place in my appartment.

      The outside temperature is supposed to reach 36°C today so I expect the ambient temp for the server to rise another 2-3 degrees.

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      My server rack is located in an uninsulated attic with two tiny windows. I haven't measured the ambient temperature but I think it's over 40°C. Yesterday one drive in my storage server reached 65°C - so for today I have shut it off until the rain comes. Fun times.

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      • H [email protected]

        31.5°C also is just a bit slower at cooling, and computer devices easily reach 95°C without any troubles.

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        Yeah this temperature is nothing. Regularly gets over 40 degrees Celsius where I am, and all of my home servers have run 24/7 through it without issue, not in air conditioning.

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          My server rack is located in an uninsulated attic with two tiny windows. I haven't measured the ambient temperature but I think it's over 40°C. Yesterday one drive in my storage server reached 65°C - so for today I have shut it off until the rain comes. Fun times.

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          Ouch, I will defenelty check on the system temps once I get home. Although I can't really shut the whole thing off, maybe I can at least spin down the drive pool and kill all containers relying on that.

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          • N [email protected]

            The sensor is located on the case (not near the exhaust) of the server. With the structure of my appartment this is the only place I can realistically put my Server but sadly also the hottest place in my appartment.

            The outside temperature is supposed to reach 36°C today so I expect the ambient temp for the server to rise another 2-3 degrees.

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            My Pi usually runs at ~ 40 Degrees Celsius. It doesn’t like this either.

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            • N [email protected]

              The sensor is located on the case (not near the exhaust) of the server. With the structure of my appartment this is the only place I can realistically put my Server but sadly also the hottest place in my appartment.

              The outside temperature is supposed to reach 36°C today so I expect the ambient temp for the server to rise another 2-3 degrees.

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              We're doing fine here:

              Aber Deutschland ist geschmolzen 😞

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              • swizzlestick@lemmy.zipS [email protected]

                We're doing fine here:

                Aber Deutschland ist geschmolzen 😞

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                How did you get your drive temps into home assistant?

                *Deutschland wird schmelzen 🥲

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                  My Pi usually runs at ~ 40 Degrees Celsius. It doesn’t like this either.

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                  My Pi spends all of its time around 55°C in a 20-25°C room. Main server idles at 47°C. Those aren't worrying temps.

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                    How did you get your drive temps into home assistant?

                    *Deutschland wird schmelzen 🥲

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                    Oh nee :((

                    It's a Synology NAS so will work with the Synology DSM integration: https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/synology_dsm

                    There's definitely ways to poll the sensors of other devices though. I had some janky sensors set up before for monitoring a standard Linux box.

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                      My Pi spends all of its time around 55°C in a 20-25°C room. Main server idles at 47°C. Those aren't worrying temps.

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                      Yeah I know my desktop is idling around 60.
                      Yet I’d rather have it a bit less warm on the passively cooled device 😉

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                      • N [email protected]

                        The sensor is located on the case (not near the exhaust) of the server. With the structure of my appartment this is the only place I can realistically put my Server but sadly also the hottest place in my appartment.

                        The outside temperature is supposed to reach 36°C today so I expect the ambient temp for the server to rise another 2-3 degrees.

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                        Guess it might be benefitting from fans though 😄

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                        • humanius@lemmy.worldH [email protected]

                          My server has also not been liking the heat over the past month

                          Though in my case it's because drive 3 is sitting in a slot that is possibly not getting enough airflow. It's consistently running a bit hotter than the other drives in the system.

                          I really should get around to moving it to a different slot.

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                          Been happening to me as well. And my basement is more cool than my 1st and 2nd floor.

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                            The sensor is located on the case (not near the exhaust) of the server. With the structure of my appartment this is the only place I can realistically put my Server but sadly also the hottest place in my appartment.

                            The outside temperature is supposed to reach 36°C today so I expect the ambient temp for the server to rise another 2-3 degrees.

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                            My server is in a closet without ventilation. You will probably be fine.

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                            • S [email protected]

                              My Pi usually runs at ~ 40 Degrees Celsius. It doesn’t like this either.

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                              My passiv cooled Pi5 (case as radiator) with HA is at 44°C (room is at 33°C). Idk how hot it gets on a regular basis, I just enabled the system monitor integration right now.

                              I mean with CPU temps, thermal throttling starts usually at 80°C, so nothing to worry.

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                                31.5°C also is just a bit slower at cooling, and computer devices easily reach 95°C without any troubles.

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                                Hard drives don't really like high temperatures for extended periods of time. Google did some research on this way back when. Failure rates start going up at an average temperature of 35 °C and become significantly higher if the HDD is operated beyond 40°C for much of its life. That's HDD temperature, not ambient.

                                The same applies to low temperatures. The ideal temperature range seems to be between 20 °C and 35 °C.

                                Mind you, we're talking "going from a 5% AFR to a 15% AFR for drives that saw constant heavy use in a datacenter for three years". Your regular home server with a modest I/O load is probably going to see much less in terms of HDD wear. Still, heat amplifies that wear.

                                I'm not too concerned myself despite the fact that my server's HDD temps are all somewhere between 41 and 44. At 30 °C ambient there's not much better I can do and the HDDs spend most of their time idling anyway.

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                                  This is less about the increase during the last 24 hours and more about the current temp+expected increase.

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                                  I’ll make you feel better: here’s a server of mine that lives in a hot garage. Sorry for the freedom units but it peaks at about 55C.

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                                  • N [email protected]

                                    The sensor is located on the case (not near the exhaust) of the server. With the structure of my appartment this is the only place I can realistically put my Server but sadly also the hottest place in my appartment.

                                    The outside temperature is supposed to reach 36°C today so I expect the ambient temp for the server to rise another 2-3 degrees.

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                                    If that's the flur just imagine how high the cerling is

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                                      The sensor is located on the case (not near the exhaust) of the server. With the structure of my appartment this is the only place I can realistically put my Server but sadly also the hottest place in my appartment.

                                      The outside temperature is supposed to reach 36°C today so I expect the ambient temp for the server to rise another 2-3 degrees.

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                                      This is the temperature right now (8:50am local time), I will comment again at 3:00pm xd Normally the ambient temperature here is over 40°C.

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                                        The sensor is located on the case (not near the exhaust) of the server. With the structure of my appartment this is the only place I can realistically put my Server but sadly also the hottest place in my appartment.

                                        The outside temperature is supposed to reach 36°C today so I expect the ambient temp for the server to rise another 2-3 degrees.

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                                        no issues with temps here in the UK, but the fans don't sound happy....

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                                        • N [email protected]

                                          The sensor is located on the case (not near the exhaust) of the server. With the structure of my appartment this is the only place I can realistically put my Server but sadly also the hottest place in my appartment.

                                          The outside temperature is supposed to reach 36°C today so I expect the ambient temp for the server to rise another 2-3 degrees.

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                                          Not worrying temps for most stuff. If you have mechanical HDDs you may want to check those specifically.

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