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Why is Lemmy so US-centric? The largest instances are in Europe, aren't they? So why does it have to be US news trolling as if it were Reddit?

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  • P [email protected]

    The good thing about English is that it's a slut. So many words and terms come from other languages that it's easy to have a basic word base to start with from other languages. As easy as some Americans dismiss Spanish influence, it's hard to not have at least some kind of understanding of at least some words. And being a Latin language, it's not that hard to grow from there. Hell, even the warnings and manuals for equipment will accidentally give you exposure as you look for the english version. Hablamos por uno ràzon. Broken ass Spanish, but it gets the point across.

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    Yeah and as a Canadian everything I have comes with French on the label. Guess it's suiting that the romance languages have been sleeping with the English slut

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      Would that be J Lai Lu?

      J’lai lu has news but it isn’t the only thing. it is the best I know but there might be something better. I don’t know how to search for communities by language. I actually read newspapers at the library when I want to read French news

      And how would you make it show more often in your feed and us news show less often?

      I sort by scale for this

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      Interesting, thank you 🙂

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      • T [email protected]

        Would that be J Lai Lu? And how would you make it show more often in your feed and us news show less often? That's the kind of balance I'd like to get, useful us news about once a day and useful French news about once a day, instead of 10x of same Epstein news and 0 French/whatever

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        That's why we moved our french communities there, on jlai.lu. so if you have a jlai.lu account, you can set your timeline to local and then every news will be french.

        There is another solution : PieFed. With PieFed account, you can subcribe to the flux i created :

        • https://piefed.social/f/cafe_fr (a cosy place where news are removed)
        • https://piefed.social/f/actu_fr (there is also canada, swiss and belgium. For the worst news, such us US, gaza...are in Actualités difficiles)
        • https://piefed.social/f/peertube_fr (a curratod list of french peertube content)
        • https://piefed.social/f/societe_fr (for feminism, 0 waste, less cars, deaf...)

        Oh i forgot, on piefed, we have a keyword filter. You can add trump, musk, eipstein and then ask piefed to hide or blur those posts.

        I hope it helped ya somehow 🙂

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        • S [email protected]

          It's good if you filter out that shit based in keyword. I've had so much less stress by filtering out any posts with the words {"Trump","Vance", "Putin", "Israel", "Republican", "Democrat", "Fart Sandwiches"}

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          Damn, all my Fart Sandwich memes getting blocked. 😭

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            There are 27 countries in the EU, there is only one USA. Most people don't seem to care about each other's national happenings.

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            That's so fascinating.

            As an American, only peak news from Mexico and Canada gets on my radar. I don't know shit about Brazil, Cuba, etc. and with my shit American education system, I can't even name the South American countries.

            So if you're in Italy, you don't give a shit about Austria, Switzerland, or France and their big news?

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            • D [email protected]

              I think only Americans like announcing they are Americans. Working with tourists in Europe spotting Americans was easy because the first thing they would say is "hello, I'm from America", or "I'm from Califooornia"

              Never had this happen with any other nationality.

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              As an American, the first thing you spot is my overweight ass asking for a bucket of Mayo.

              I never said "I'm an American" or any of that in my life.

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                In pretty sure my instance is based in Germany, or somewhere in Europe at least. That doesn't really matter. You can belong to an instance hosted anywhere, and also I don't trust data privacy at all in the US so I'd rather not have my home instance be hosted here.

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                  In pretty sure my instance is based in Germany, or somewhere in Europe at least. That doesn't really matter. You can belong to an instance hosted anywhere, and also I don't trust data privacy at all in the US so I'd rather not have my home instance be hosted here.

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                  Presumably somewhere close enough that they don't want to risk breaking UK law as it's blocked here. Not sure if any other instances will follow. I think all of lemmy is probably against UK law now. Hope we will always have some instances or its small enough to get ignored.

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                    That's so fascinating.

                    As an American, only peak news from Mexico and Canada gets on my radar. I don't know shit about Brazil, Cuba, etc. and with my shit American education system, I can't even name the South American countries.

                    So if you're in Italy, you don't give a shit about Austria, Switzerland, or France and their big news?

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                    I remember in primary school that we were tasked with learning the names and capitals of all countries on the planet, continent for continent, so there is an early taught awareness of all countries, as well as a culture for backpacking, experiencing and adapting to other cultures.
                    As a Norwegian, most news here are about here, and only major headlines from other countries are mentioned in the news, like the upcoming doctors strike in UK in the news today or the power outage in Spain a while back. Some more news from Sweden though, as it is our closest neighbour and the country we visit the most.

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                    • V [email protected]

                      ... but that's not as dramatic as the fall of arguably the most hated country in the world

                      Easy there, lets not forget Israel. America is maybe right behind them though.

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                      Israel wouldn't be high on that list without the sweetheart funding it gets from the United States to wage its atrocities.

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                        No moose mentioned?

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                        There was a story about moose some weeks ago, but it's been a while now, sadly.

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                          The US is the largest English-speaking country by far and this post is in English. Switch to another language and you'll see less US stuff.

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                          That has nothing to do with anything. You will obviously not be aware of it, but by far the greater majority of English speakers you encounter on the internet are not actually from an English speaking country, and definitely not from the US. That is because English functions as the lingua franca of the internet, so we have to use English to be mutually understood.

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                          • B [email protected]

                            That's so fascinating.

                            As an American, only peak news from Mexico and Canada gets on my radar. I don't know shit about Brazil, Cuba, etc. and with my shit American education system, I can't even name the South American countries.

                            So if you're in Italy, you don't give a shit about Austria, Switzerland, or France and their big news?

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                            Yes, we do.

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                            • V [email protected]

                              ... but that's not as dramatic as the fall of arguably the most hated country in the world

                              Easy there, lets not forget Israel. America is maybe right behind them though.

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                              Most of the things happening in Israel now is because of the US though. Netanyahu really felt empowered by Trump becoming president, and rightly so, because he can manipulate that orange toddler into doing anything he wants.

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                                Israel wouldn't be high on that list without the sweetheart funding it gets from the United States to wage its atrocities.

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                                It is not just the funding, they literally got a cheerleader in Trump, extremely eager to participate as well, as was seen with the bombing of Iran.

                                Netanyahu doesn't have to hold back anymore, he can blatantly genocide because he got the backing of the US, and the European leaders are mostly too spineless to cross the Americans.

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                                • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

                                  Most of us came from Reddit, and Reddit is predominantly Americans.

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                                  No, the majority of users on reddit are non-Americans. Americans are just the biggest national group of users, but they are a minority. You are more likely to be talking to a non-American than an American on reddit.

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                                    Yes, that is the implication I was making to answer the original question. The majority of content here is in English-->the majority of English-first users are from the US-->this is why Lemmy seems so US-centric.

                                    I was being a little obtuse because it's like a French-filtered user asking why social media seems so France-centric even though there's lots of social media in Africa--there are other languages that people use that you're not necessarily seeing on your feed.

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                                    That is not the reality though. The majority of English-first users is a quite irrelevant statistic, since a majority of people from non-English speaking countries still uses English on the internet outside of their specific national environments. The majority of English speakers on the internet are non-Americans, so it explains nothing about why the English language (international) areas of lemmy are US-centric.

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                                      The United States is a giant nation in the English language. It comprises of a majority of English as a first language speakers and a large percentage of English speakers overall. American media output is also going to be primarily in English, including local news.

                                      In contrast, a nation like Germany is likely going to speak in German when possible. This likely includes media like news. So, when it comes to news articles, I don't expect English news from Germany to be written in anywhere near the quantity of English news written about California.

                                      I feel like it would be like asking why Portuguese media focuses on Brazil.

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                                      The majority of English speakers on the internet are non-Americans. In fact the majority of English speakers on the internet are not even from an English speaking country. That is because English is used as the international language on the internet.

                                      So no, that is not the answer, even though a lot of native English speakers in this thread seems to think it is.

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                                      • H [email protected]

                                        English speakers will talk about the UK/Canada/Austrailia/etc. once one of them are on fire/falling into fascism as well.

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                                        No, English speakers will talk about anything because speaking English on the internet says nothing about where you are from. It is the international language of the internet, not tied to any specific country.

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                                          It's possible that most English-speakers on this planet are in the US.

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                                          No, most English speakers on the planet are not from the US. In fact most English speakers on the planet are secondary speakers, and not even from an English speaking country.

                                          English is used on the internet as an international language which enables people from all over the world to understand each other.

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