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  • E [email protected]

    "The 'burn' part is like what the climate change does, which you are familiar with.

    The 'CD' part is like your brain, where the 'burn' causes microplastics to melt in a pattern that stores data."

    "Now kids, can anyone tell me why the historians often say 'CDs nutz'?"

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    ::Tiny precocious little scamp raises hand::

    "Was that an off shoot of the philosopher Welvin's posit on the 'got eem' principle?"

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    • whynotsquirrel@sh.itjust.worksW [email protected]

      Wait we could do this? On playstation you were supposed to change something no?

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      For the DC? yeah, it would play burned CDs no problem.

      For the playstation? not sure. I had mine modded so I could import games from Japan but I don't believe it could play burned CDs.

      Xbox and the 360 were easy to mod though and you could play burned games on those also.

      But yeah the Dreamcast just did it right out of the box. no mods required.

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        So tellllll me, what's the price to pay.... for glooooooory

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          Nero times

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            Wait we could do this? On playstation you were supposed to change something no?

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            The PlayStation 1 had a copy protection system that measured physical properties of the disc which couldn't be replicated by normal CD writers. There were a few ways to get around this, but to be able to put a burned CD into your console and boot directly from it into the game (as usual) required the installation of a fairly complex mod chip. A lot of people alternatively used the "swap trick", which is how I used to play my imported original games.

            The DreamCast's copy protection was heavily reliant on using dual-layer GD-ROM discs rather than regular CDs, even though they look the same to the naked eye. There were other checks in place as well, but simply using GD-ROMs was pretty effective in and of itself.

            Unfortunately, Sega also added support for a thing called "MIL-CD" to the DreamCast. MIL-CD was intended to allow regular music CDs to include interactive multimedia components when played on the console. However, MIL-CD was supported for otherwise completely standard CDs, including burned CDs, and had no copy protection, because Sega wanted to make it as easy as possible for other companies to make MIL-CDs, so the format could spread and hopefully become popular. Someone found a way to "break out" of the MIL-CD system and take over the console to run arbitrary code like a regular, officially released game, and that was the end of DreamCast's copy protection. People couldn't just copy an original game disc 1:1 and have it work; some work had to be done on the game to put it on a burned CD and still have it run (sometimes quite a lot of work, actually), but no console modification was needed. Anyone with a DreamCast relased before Sega patched this issue (which seems to be most of them) can simply burn a CD and play it on their console, provided they can get a cracked copy of the game.

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              Even over the mini disc? Blasphemy!

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              I loved my MDs and Hi-MDs, but they had so many frills. All the frills. That was part of why I loved them!

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                ::Tiny precocious little scamp raises hand::

                "Was that an off shoot of the philosopher Welvin's posit on the 'got eem' principle?"

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                Very good, student. Got em just like yo mamma did

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                  What happened to our youth?????

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                    The larger ones were flexible, not floppy—they could be bent without cracking the casing, but wouldn't just bend under their own weight.

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                    If you held them by a side and shaked them, they were definitely floppy.

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                      Meh, burning CDs... ever had to worry whether you'd parked your hard drive's heads before moving it, child..?

                      (To be fair, neither did I, probably; my earliest hard drive was already IDE, I believe, and those seem to have already had autopark, but the old lore was that you parked your hard drives before moving them, or the heads would scratch the surface, so park them we did.)

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                        Alcohol 120% and Daemon Tools

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                        Nero burning ROM.

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                          Oh no, I just wrote a 1 kB file to the disk and can not add other files? what is this read-write bs?

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                            Meh, burning CDs... ever had to worry whether you'd parked your hard drive's heads before moving it, child..?

                            (To be fair, neither did I, probably; my earliest hard drive was already IDE, I believe, and those seem to have already had autopark, but the old lore was that you parked your hard drives before moving them, or the heads would scratch the surface, so park them we did.)

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                            ever had to worry whether you’d parked your hard drive’s heads before moving it, child…?

                            Yes, also you parked it before shutting down the system every time. Once the hard drive was powered down, the heads would just crash into the platters. While not instantly fatal, it wasn't good for the drive. So, you'd park the drive before flipping the power switch.

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                              "Floppy disks" were 8 inches a side in my youth and went in the minicomputer

                              Then along came Newfangled desktop PCs with their 5.25" floppies

                              Tom Bombadil remembers first acorn and first rain drop

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                              Fun fact, in some countries the 3.5" floppies were called "stiffy disks". You know, because the outer casing was "stiff" as opposed to the floppy 5.25" disks. This discovery led to a lot of chuckling among the team I worked with when we opened a new product from one of those countries and read the manual. The instruction to "insert stiffy disk" still leads most of us to chuckling today.

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                                Meh, burning CDs... ever had to worry whether you'd parked your hard drive's heads before moving it, child..?

                                (To be fair, neither did I, probably; my earliest hard drive was already IDE, I believe, and those seem to have already had autopark, but the old lore was that you parked your hard drives before moving them, or the heads would scratch the surface, so park them we did.)

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                                Ever have a hard drive with the head stepper motor visible outside?

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                                  The last CD-drive I had burned at 52x. I still remember how it sounded like a small jet engine spooling up when the burn started. Amazing how I always got bit perfect burns and how the discs didn't explode while spinning like a car turbocharger.

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                                  Maybe it's the one with multiple beams? Although I can see that for reading but not writing.

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                                    ...and it was called NERO because it burnt ROM

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                                      ...and it was called NERO because it burnt ROM

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                                      "CloneCD uses a logo of a sheep because at the time it was relevant, the biggest news in cloning research was Dolly the sheep."

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                                        Ever have a hard drive with the head stepper motor visible outside?

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                                        Not that I recall, no.

                                        My first one was a 65MB (or was it 85MB?) 3.5'' parallel ATA one, and while the enclosure might have been shaped around the platter(s?) (could have been a later one, though) I don't recall the motor being distinguishable.

                                        Whole machine (my first PC proper) was a 286, 16MHz with turbo on, possibly 1024KB of RAM (I recall setting up autoexec.bat to ask me if I needed extended or expanded memory on boot, but could've been in a later machine; pretty certain the memory was on socketed DIPs on the mainboard, not SIMMs, in any case, so it can't have been much, and 640KB was supposed to be enough, anyway), CGA, 5.25'' and possibly 3.5'' floppy drive, DOS... 4.something, I believe.

                                        Good times.

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