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    I had a program that came with special CD Labels for the printer where you could make your own cool CD label covers. that was fun.

    Or going into a Dreamcast IRC channel to download games and burn them to disk. I think I only ever actually bought like 2 Dreamcast games, Shenmue and Seaman, the rest were just burned to CD-Rs.

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    Wait we could do this? On playstation you were supposed to change something no?

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      Nah, I'd end up explaining why floppy discs weren't floppy, instead, and let the younger folks explain the CDs.

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      They were floppy though?

      At least 8 inch, and 5.25 inch. 3.5 only on the inside (unless enough force is applied xD).

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        They were floppy though?

        At least 8 inch, and 5.25 inch. 3.5 only on the inside (unless enough force is applied xD).

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        The larger ones were flexible, not floppy—they could be bent without cracking the casing, but wouldn't just bend under their own weight.

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          I had a program that came with special CD Labels for the printer where you could make your own cool CD label covers. that was fun.

          Or going into a Dreamcast IRC channel to download games and burn them to disk. I think I only ever actually bought like 2 Dreamcast games, Shenmue and Seaman, the rest were just burned to CD-Rs.

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          I was buying blank DVD's with printable surfaces, I had an epson inkjet with a tray that would print directly on the disk.

          I would get a shipment of 4 DVD's from netflix, rip all 4, shrink them down below 4.7G, burn them, print a label on them and put them in a binder. and mail them back out for the next set of 4. The output looked shockingly good. I made it through a spindle or so before i moved on to tversity and stopped dealing with physical media.

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            "We first had to venture miles deep into the woods to find a local Circuit City, which bountifully bore free trial AOL CDs like fruit. We then grabbed an armful, despite the protests of the clerk, and hastily returned to camp. We then had to build a fire by hand, with kindling and wood, and we donned our robes. As the fire grew, we meditated and chanted around the fire, as we mentally mounted the Serious Sam bootleg install files. It took weeks to and a several acres of wood to chant the correct order of ones and zeroes, so we had to work in teams and take shifts. When it was my turn, I took a CD and stuck it through a metal stick stuck into the fire. I spun the CD with my bare hands, blistered and swollen by fiery praying, and lowered it into the fire to burn the ones, and raised it slightly for the zeroes. Any error found by the final validation step would result in premature cremation by the group. There were not many of us left by the time we had the LAN party. A room full of Pentium 4 PCs made the room feel as hot as a furnace, but the pizzas were cold that day, little ones. So cold..."

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              I was buying blank DVD's with printable surfaces, I had an epson inkjet with a tray that would print directly on the disk.

              I would get a shipment of 4 DVD's from netflix, rip all 4, shrink them down below 4.7G, burn them, print a label on them and put them in a binder. and mail them back out for the next set of 4. The output looked shockingly good. I made it through a spindle or so before i moved on to tversity and stopped dealing with physical media.

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              It was so awesome when I bought a LightScribe dvd burner and could put various decorations on the dvd along with the content label. The novelty wore off quickly though.

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                "The 'burn' part is like what the climate change does, which you are familiar with.

                The 'CD' part is like your brain, where the 'burn' causes microplastics to melt in a pattern that stores data."

                "Now kids, can anyone tell me why the historians often say 'CDs nutz'?"

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                  They were floppy though?

                  At least 8 inch, and 5.25 inch. 3.5 only on the inside (unless enough force is applied xD).

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                  By 3.5" you ofc mean:

                  /s

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                    This is like Technology Connections having to explain what an MP3 CD is! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkIR23emsWY

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                      I remember when some company started advertising "BURN-proof" CD-R drives and thinking that was a really dumb phrase, because literally nobody shortened "buffer underrun" to "BURN", and because, you know, "burning" was the entire point of a CD-R drive.

                      It worked though. Buffer underruns weren't a problem on the later generations of drives. I still never burned at max speed on those though. Felt like asking for trouble to burn a disc at 52x or whatever they maxed out at. At that point it was the difference between 1.5 minutes and 4 minutes or something like that. I was never in that big a rush.

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                      The last CD-drive I had burned at 52x. I still remember how it sounded like a small jet engine spooling up when the burn started. Amazing how I always got bit perfect burns and how the discs didn't explode while spinning like a car turbocharger.

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                        "The 'burn' part is like what the climate change does, which you are familiar with.

                        The 'CD' part is like your brain, where the 'burn' causes microplastics to melt in a pattern that stores data."

                        "Now kids, can anyone tell me why the historians often say 'CDs nutz'?"

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                        ::Tiny precocious little scamp raises hand::

                        "Was that an off shoot of the philosopher Welvin's posit on the 'got eem' principle?"

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                        • whynotsquirrel@sh.itjust.worksW [email protected]

                          Wait we could do this? On playstation you were supposed to change something no?

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                          For the DC? yeah, it would play burned CDs no problem.

                          For the playstation? not sure. I had mine modded so I could import games from Japan but I don't believe it could play burned CDs.

                          Xbox and the 360 were easy to mod though and you could play burned games on those also.

                          But yeah the Dreamcast just did it right out of the box. no mods required.

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                            So tellllll me, what's the price to pay.... for glooooooory

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                              Nero times

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                                Wait we could do this? On playstation you were supposed to change something no?

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                                The PlayStation 1 had a copy protection system that measured physical properties of the disc which couldn't be replicated by normal CD writers. There were a few ways to get around this, but to be able to put a burned CD into your console and boot directly from it into the game (as usual) required the installation of a fairly complex mod chip. A lot of people alternatively used the "swap trick", which is how I used to play my imported original games.

                                The DreamCast's copy protection was heavily reliant on using dual-layer GD-ROM discs rather than regular CDs, even though they look the same to the naked eye. There were other checks in place as well, but simply using GD-ROMs was pretty effective in and of itself.

                                Unfortunately, Sega also added support for a thing called "MIL-CD" to the DreamCast. MIL-CD was intended to allow regular music CDs to include interactive multimedia components when played on the console. However, MIL-CD was supported for otherwise completely standard CDs, including burned CDs, and had no copy protection, because Sega wanted to make it as easy as possible for other companies to make MIL-CDs, so the format could spread and hopefully become popular. Someone found a way to "break out" of the MIL-CD system and take over the console to run arbitrary code like a regular, officially released game, and that was the end of DreamCast's copy protection. People couldn't just copy an original game disc 1:1 and have it work; some work had to be done on the game to put it on a burned CD and still have it run (sometimes quite a lot of work, actually), but no console modification was needed. Anyone with a DreamCast relased before Sega patched this issue (which seems to be most of them) can simply burn a CD and play it on their console, provided they can get a cracked copy of the game.

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                                  Even over the mini disc? Blasphemy!

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                                  I loved my MDs and Hi-MDs, but they had so many frills. All the frills. That was part of why I loved them!

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                                    ::Tiny precocious little scamp raises hand::

                                    "Was that an off shoot of the philosopher Welvin's posit on the 'got eem' principle?"

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                                    Very good, student. Got em just like yo mamma did

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                                      What happened to our youth?????

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                                        The larger ones were flexible, not floppy—they could be bent without cracking the casing, but wouldn't just bend under their own weight.

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                                        If you held them by a side and shaked them, they were definitely floppy.

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                                          Meh, burning CDs... ever had to worry whether you'd parked your hard drive's heads before moving it, child..?

                                          (To be fair, neither did I, probably; my earliest hard drive was already IDE, I believe, and those seem to have already had autopark, but the old lore was that you parked your hard drives before moving them, or the heads would scratch the surface, so park them we did.)

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