I genuinely can't wait for Mobile Linux to become a thing
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still better than ios lol
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Yep, they put in a lot of effort into the security and open source stuff, but at least on Graphene, the bundled apps are severely outdated aosp apps, they don't even support material you, meanwhile current aosp apps do support it, as can be seen on Lineage. The calculator app looks straight from Android 5 or probably earlier.
I honestly couldn't care less about how the calculator app looks, and I'm sure you could find a more "modern" one on fdroid. The real problems are things like google pay not working (not a deal breaker imo, but would be nice to have)
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Yep, they put in a lot of effort into the security and open source stuff, but at least on Graphene, the bundled apps are severely outdated aosp apps, they don't even support material you, meanwhile current aosp apps do support it, as can be seen on Lineage. The calculator app looks straight from Android 5 or probably earlier.
Lineage has its own forks of most apps
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My banking app works on GrapheneOS. It didn't even need any of the compatibility settings to be turned. My experience has been smoother than the Android shipped with the device. I barely use Google apps apart from yt and haven't found any obscure issues yet. Is GrapheneOS just really good compared to others or did I get lucky with my bank and the features I use?
My bank app doesn't work with Graphene, which is a pain in the arse, but not the end of the world. I mean, they still have a website I can log into.
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Lineage has its own forks of most apps
Most, but there are exceptions, mainly the messages app, calculator, phone app, and keyboard that I know for sure.
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I’m only using iOS because android is worse. Neither of them make me happy. IOS is just less terrible than Android.
The problem with a Linux phone is that there’s no market for it, and developing one is only possible if you fundamentally change what a Linux phone means thereby ruining it but getting profitability and therefore carrier support and manufacturer profitability.
We don’t get what we want. They do.
Basically this. I use my phone as a tool and Linux phones don’t have the toolset for me to be satisfied. Like NFC payment, online banking and GPS tracking. Android does have the toolset but I’d like to keep my phone 5 years and longer. Currently rocking an iPhone 14 Pro and I plan on changing it with the iPhone 20 or 30 or however they call that one on 5 years.
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Nah, /e/os and GrapheneOS rule!
wrote last edited by [email protected]Just one problem. Both are still dependent on Google and Android-based. How sustainable is that security model when a company has the say-so over whether you get to flash your custom firmware next year, or the next year, or maybe the year after that?
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Yeah, like the Nexus 5. Not anything you'd want to actually use today.
I looked into Ubuntu Touch last week as a potential alternative to Graphene on my Pixel 9.
The most recent Pixel it supports is the 3.
So Graphene it is then...
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I'm currently trying to decide between private and repairable. Pixel with Graphene or an HMD Skyline. Wish Fairphone was an option.
How's picture quality with Graphene? How big a downgrade is it from the one packed on the stock pixel?
It pains me to say, but the stock Google camera app is by far and away the best option I've yet found on Graphene. Which has to pair with the Photos app, or you can't actually do anything with the photos it takes.
However, you don't have to sync either with Google (though you do have to sign in), you can set Graphene to only allow them access to the folder they need (while they think they have wider access), and you can turn off network permission.
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I looked into Ubuntu Touch last week as a potential alternative to Graphene on my Pixel 9.
The most recent Pixel it supports is the 3.
So Graphene it is then...
That's still way newer than I thought. I guess they started updating it again.
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Came here to say the same thing. I'm very happy with sailfish OS since the first jolla phone came out (10+ years). I'm certainly not a power user though.
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I’m only using iOS because android is worse. Neither of them make me happy. IOS is just less terrible than Android.
The problem with a Linux phone is that there’s no market for it, and developing one is only possible if you fundamentally change what a Linux phone means thereby ruining it but getting profitability and therefore carrier support and manufacturer profitability.
We don’t get what we want. They do.
There's also LineageOS after support. Still immutable done bad, but the toolset works.
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It pains me to say, but the stock Google camera app is by far and away the best option I've yet found on Graphene. Which has to pair with the Photos app, or you can't actually do anything with the photos it takes.
However, you don't have to sync either with Google (though you do have to sign in), you can set Graphene to only allow them access to the folder they need (while they think they have wider access), and you can turn off network permission.
Why is it that you can't do anything with the photos unless paired with the Photos App? Does the camera output in a proprietary format or something that Photos converts?
Definitely not going to sync with google though. I don't on my current phone either. I've degoogled as much as I can on my current phone lol
Thanks for your replies!
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Phosh has a great UI, I genuinely love it -- I'm just not thrilled by my phone's battery life when running any mobile linux
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I only use the camera for casual pictures and it's fine. It's still the same lenses and sensors after all. The camera app obviously isn't as all singing all dancing as stock but perfectly functional, has all the features you'd expect.
Right on, thanks for the reply.
I often have to snap tiny labels, have you had to do anything like that with yours?
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still better than ios lol
wrote last edited by [email protected]I want this too but I don't get how you can call something like LineageOS dogshit.
It works perfectly.
I'm a desktop user mostly but my phone feels like the more polished experience
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still better than ios lol
Where would you even find a phone without a locked bootloader to even try this on other than a pixel, because, a google phone, to degoogle, really ? lol!
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still better than ios lol
We need custom hardware imo.
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i never experienced point 2 or 3 in all my years of using them.
the problem for me is usually integrity api.
wrote last edited by [email protected]They're pretty common and the functionality is often not even obscure. Plenty of ROMs out there are unable to make full use of the fancy cameras on some phones without jumping through hoops because of driver issues. That's not an insignificant thing. I've seen NFC and e-sim being unavailable as well, which are also not very obscure features.
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I'm currently trying to decide between private and repairable. Pixel with Graphene or an HMD Skyline. Wish Fairphone was an option.
How's picture quality with Graphene? How big a downgrade is it from the one packed on the stock pixel?
You can use the stock Google Pixel camera app without Play Services or internet access, it will produce the same photos. Tje only thing that won't work is the small image preview at the bottom left with the last image you took, clicking on it will just tell you that Google Photos is not installed.
The GrapheneOS camera app is probably the best FOSS (sleek/minimal) camera app I've ever used, image quality isn't quite at stock Pixel level, but still pretty good, actually.
