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Valve seems to have quietly rolled out a major upgrade to their Anti-Cheat system and it’s apparently wrecking havoc on cheat providers

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  • anissem@lemmy.mlA [email protected]

    This explains why I get killed so much… right? Right?

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    Yeah! Me too! It's all the cheaters, not my complete lack of coordination, speed, and skill.

    It's the damn cheaters!

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      Yeah! Me too! It's all the cheaters, not my complete lack of coordination, speed, and skill.

      It's the damn cheaters!

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      git gud (at blocking cheaters)

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      • mr_madafaka@lemmy.mlM [email protected]

        https://www.reddit.com/r/cs2/comments/1ng6opf/1309_major_vac_live_updates_leaving_cheaters/

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        I really hope valve can get VAC into a good space so it can be an example of doing anti-cheat well without having to be a rootkit. Looks like we're heading towards that point. Hopefully this change will last

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        • mr_madafaka@lemmy.mlM [email protected]

          https://www.reddit.com/r/cs2/comments/1ng6opf/1309_major_vac_live_updates_leaving_cheaters/

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          The problem is the arms race escalates forever - cheat developers will just regroup, analyse what the new VAC is doing, and start finding new exploits.

          Not saying Valve should just give up; quite the opposite. The war never ends.

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          • mr_madafaka@lemmy.mlM [email protected]

            https://www.reddit.com/r/cs2/comments/1ng6opf/1309_major_vac_live_updates_leaving_cheaters/

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            Hell fucking yeah.

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            • anissem@lemmy.mlA [email protected]

              This explains why I get killed so much… right? Right?

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              Cheaters being banned? What?

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                The problem is the arms race escalates forever - cheat developers will just regroup, analyse what the new VAC is doing, and start finding new exploits.

                Not saying Valve should just give up; quite the opposite. The war never ends.

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                That’s not the problem. The problem is people hacking software.

                If we are talking about the software. The problem is the hacking of that software. I replied to a comment about the software.

                The arms race is not the problem. Anti-cheat didn’t come first. The hacking of software did.

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                • mr_madafaka@lemmy.mlM [email protected]

                  https://www.reddit.com/r/cs2/comments/1ng6opf/1309_major_vac_live_updates_leaving_cheaters/

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                  Wauughhh!

                  Uaughh!

                  Ahahaha!

                  Cry some more, kernel anti cheat stans!

                  ... cry some more.

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                  • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comS [email protected]

                    Wauughhh!

                    Uaughh!

                    Ahahaha!

                    Cry some more, kernel anti cheat stans!

                    ... cry some more.

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                    Not sure if this was intentional but your comment reads like classic Halo Elite death screams. I love it. Fits perfectly with imagining execs at denuvo seeing the success of VAC.

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                      Not sure if this was intentional but your comment reads like classic Halo Elite death screams. I love it. Fits perfectly with imagining execs at denuvo seeing the success of VAC.

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                      Close.

                      It costs $400,000 to hire me as a ghost writer...

                      ... for 12 seconds.

                      https://youtube.com/watch?v=jHgZh4GV9G0

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                      • paraphrand@lemmy.worldP [email protected]

                        That’s not the problem. The problem is people hacking software.

                        If we are talking about the software. The problem is the hacking of that software. I replied to a comment about the software.

                        The arms race is not the problem. Anti-cheat didn’t come first. The hacking of software did.

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                        That’s not the problem. Hacking software rules. The problem is griefing shitheads who ruin games for other people.

                        I regularly hack single player games to cheat especially after I have a “legit” run and want to try playing op or if it’s just a game I’m not super invested in the mechanics of and want to power through the story. Who gives a shit if I do this? 20-30 years ago this was a cheat code or a game genie thing. Now it’s “bad”, which I get if it’s multiplayer and I’m ruining balance (unless literally the only multiplayer aspect is a meaningless leaderboard), or it’s still there but it’s monetized and that’s just scumbag shit

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                        • mr_madafaka@lemmy.mlM [email protected]

                          https://www.reddit.com/r/cs2/comments/1ng6opf/1309_major_vac_live_updates_leaving_cheaters/

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                          I can only hope this affects TF2 as well. I used to play competitively and the line between cheater and god-tier is so blurry sometimes, especially with how hard it is to spectate now. The one and only time I was certain someone was cheating was when I tried to rocket jump around a corner and got killed by a prefired airshot from a direct hit, aka they couldn't even see me when they fired and still hit me 50 feet in the air the same instant I came around the corner.

                          And of course their team wouldn't kick em because people still think it's impossible to cheat with projectiles 😞

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                          • mr_madafaka@lemmy.mlM [email protected]

                            https://www.reddit.com/r/cs2/comments/1ng6opf/1309_major_vac_live_updates_leaving_cheaters/

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                            I've often thought that the cheaters should be simply shadow banned, and only match with other cheaters. Let them play against the other cheaters and see how well they do.

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                              I've often thought that the cheaters should be simply shadow banned, and only match with other cheaters. Let them play against the other cheaters and see how well they do.

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                              GTA Online does (did?) this, most cheating wouldn't get you banned and instead just placed in cheater lobbies.

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                              • paraphrand@lemmy.worldP [email protected]

                                That’s not the problem. The problem is people hacking software.

                                If we are talking about the software. The problem is the hacking of that software. I replied to a comment about the software.

                                The arms race is not the problem. Anti-cheat didn’t come first. The hacking of software did.

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                                The problem is shitty parenting creating shitty children.

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                                  The problem is shitty parenting creating shitty children.

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                                  The problem is people existing.

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                                    The problem is people existing.

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                                    The problem is existence itself

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                                      I've often thought that the cheaters should be simply shadow banned, and only match with other cheaters. Let them play against the other cheaters and see how well they do.

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                                      Cheaters also are part of why I like coop games so much more. Join a random game with a cheater, doesn't matter too much and you can leave. Play with a group of friends and that also goes a long way to eliminating them.

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                                        The problem is existence itself

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                                        Go tell that to existence then

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                                          The problem is existence itself

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                                          🛺

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