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Valve seems to have quietly rolled out a major upgrade to their Anti-Cheat system and it’s apparently wrecking havoc on cheat providers

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  • mr_madafaka@lemmy.mlM [email protected]

    https://www.reddit.com/r/cs2/comments/1ng6opf/1309_major_vac_live_updates_leaving_cheaters/

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    The problem is the arms race escalates forever - cheat developers will just regroup, analyse what the new VAC is doing, and start finding new exploits.

    Not saying Valve should just give up; quite the opposite. The war never ends.

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    • mr_madafaka@lemmy.mlM [email protected]

      https://www.reddit.com/r/cs2/comments/1ng6opf/1309_major_vac_live_updates_leaving_cheaters/

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      Hell fucking yeah.

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      • anissem@lemmy.mlA [email protected]

        This explains why I get killed so much… right? Right?

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        Cheaters being banned? What?

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          The problem is the arms race escalates forever - cheat developers will just regroup, analyse what the new VAC is doing, and start finding new exploits.

          Not saying Valve should just give up; quite the opposite. The war never ends.

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          That’s not the problem. The problem is people hacking software.

          If we are talking about the software. The problem is the hacking of that software. I replied to a comment about the software.

          The arms race is not the problem. Anti-cheat didn’t come first. The hacking of software did.

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          • mr_madafaka@lemmy.mlM [email protected]

            https://www.reddit.com/r/cs2/comments/1ng6opf/1309_major_vac_live_updates_leaving_cheaters/

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            #12

            Wauughhh!

            Uaughh!

            Ahahaha!

            Cry some more, kernel anti cheat stans!

            ... cry some more.

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            • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comS [email protected]

              Wauughhh!

              Uaughh!

              Ahahaha!

              Cry some more, kernel anti cheat stans!

              ... cry some more.

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              Not sure if this was intentional but your comment reads like classic Halo Elite death screams. I love it. Fits perfectly with imagining execs at denuvo seeing the success of VAC.

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              • D [email protected]

                Not sure if this was intentional but your comment reads like classic Halo Elite death screams. I love it. Fits perfectly with imagining execs at denuvo seeing the success of VAC.

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                Close.

                It costs $400,000 to hire me as a ghost writer...

                ... for 12 seconds.

                https://youtube.com/watch?v=jHgZh4GV9G0

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                • paraphrand@lemmy.worldP [email protected]

                  That’s not the problem. The problem is people hacking software.

                  If we are talking about the software. The problem is the hacking of that software. I replied to a comment about the software.

                  The arms race is not the problem. Anti-cheat didn’t come first. The hacking of software did.

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                  That’s not the problem. Hacking software rules. The problem is griefing shitheads who ruin games for other people.

                  I regularly hack single player games to cheat especially after I have a “legit” run and want to try playing op or if it’s just a game I’m not super invested in the mechanics of and want to power through the story. Who gives a shit if I do this? 20-30 years ago this was a cheat code or a game genie thing. Now it’s “bad”, which I get if it’s multiplayer and I’m ruining balance (unless literally the only multiplayer aspect is a meaningless leaderboard), or it’s still there but it’s monetized and that’s just scumbag shit

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                  • mr_madafaka@lemmy.mlM [email protected]

                    https://www.reddit.com/r/cs2/comments/1ng6opf/1309_major_vac_live_updates_leaving_cheaters/

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                    I can only hope this affects TF2 as well. I used to play competitively and the line between cheater and god-tier is so blurry sometimes, especially with how hard it is to spectate now. The one and only time I was certain someone was cheating was when I tried to rocket jump around a corner and got killed by a prefired airshot from a direct hit, aka they couldn't even see me when they fired and still hit me 50 feet in the air the same instant I came around the corner.

                    And of course their team wouldn't kick em because people still think it's impossible to cheat with projectiles 😞

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                    • mr_madafaka@lemmy.mlM [email protected]

                      https://www.reddit.com/r/cs2/comments/1ng6opf/1309_major_vac_live_updates_leaving_cheaters/

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                      I've often thought that the cheaters should be simply shadow banned, and only match with other cheaters. Let them play against the other cheaters and see how well they do.

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                      • E [email protected]

                        I've often thought that the cheaters should be simply shadow banned, and only match with other cheaters. Let them play against the other cheaters and see how well they do.

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                        GTA Online does (did?) this, most cheating wouldn't get you banned and instead just placed in cheater lobbies.

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                        • paraphrand@lemmy.worldP [email protected]

                          That’s not the problem. The problem is people hacking software.

                          If we are talking about the software. The problem is the hacking of that software. I replied to a comment about the software.

                          The arms race is not the problem. Anti-cheat didn’t come first. The hacking of software did.

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                          The problem is shitty parenting creating shitty children.

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                            The problem is shitty parenting creating shitty children.

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                            The problem is people existing.

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                              The problem is people existing.

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                              The problem is existence itself

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                              • E [email protected]

                                I've often thought that the cheaters should be simply shadow banned, and only match with other cheaters. Let them play against the other cheaters and see how well they do.

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                                Cheaters also are part of why I like coop games so much more. Join a random game with a cheater, doesn't matter too much and you can leave. Play with a group of friends and that also goes a long way to eliminating them.

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                                  The problem is existence itself

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                                  Go tell that to existence then

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                                    The problem is existence itself

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                                    🛺

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                                    • V [email protected]

                                      GTA Online does (did?) this, most cheating wouldn't get you banned and instead just placed in cheater lobbies.

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                                      Rockstar botched that system, I can attest as I used numerous different mod menus on GTA V Online, most well developed menus will let you alter yours (and others) in-game reputation by spamming the commend/report functions.

                                      Spawning in UFO’s an such was the highlight of GTA V Online for me, haven’t touched the game since I moved to Linux, I hear it’s broken due to the new anti-cheat.

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                                      • mr_madafaka@lemmy.mlM [email protected]

                                        https://www.reddit.com/r/cs2/comments/1ng6opf/1309_major_vac_live_updates_leaving_cheaters/

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                                        They will have working cheats by now. It really needs to be consistent effort to keep cheaters away.

                                        I think this is great they're doing stuff now though, keep it up!

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                                        • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comS [email protected]

                                          Wauughhh!

                                          Uaughh!

                                          Ahahaha!

                                          Cry some more, kernel anti cheat stans!

                                          ... cry some more.

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                                          I've yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet

                                          Brrrrrrrrrrrrzzzzzzzzzzzzzzraaaaaaaaaarahahahahahaugh

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