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‘The tyranny of apps’: those without smartphones are unfairly penalised, say campaigners

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  • G [email protected]

    My old apartment had gates that could only be opened with an app. They took out the card reader and made it app only. Should have gotten out of there much earlier than I did.

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    the gates that slide over using a chain, they often have a removable link at the end. If you unhook the chain on the opener side, it will open one more time, then spit all the chain out trying to close it. I used to take that link out when living in complexes with those gates. Made life easier for most. Would take months for it to get fixed. They are just standard 1/2in x1/8in bike chain.

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    • 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub0 [email protected]

      Phone apps are nothing more than modern toolbars. And in case you forgot or missed this phase of the internet...

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      I want a re-made Bonzi buddy with AI.

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      • 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub0 [email protected]

        Phone apps are nothing more than modern toolbars. And in case you forgot or missed this phase of the internet...

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        Could you expand on that thought a bit more? How is an app like the internet tool bars of old?

        Genuinely curious. I'm a little too young to have experienced internet toolbars like the ones in your image.

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        • a_random_idiot@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

          everyone wants to force you to use apps instead of websites, because websites and browsers have inbuilt protections.

          Apps don't.

          Idiots install apps, give them the 400,000 permissions they ask for, then go on their merry way..ignorant to the fact that they just installed a data vacuum on their phone thats siphoning everything off of it to be used and sold and resold for marketing purposes.. Even the phone itself its not safe, cause its sitting there, listening to your conversations, even when not on a call, to more "Accurately" spam you with bullshit.

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          Phones are not listening and if you have proof post it. No security researcher has ever posted this.

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            The same goes for customer loyalty cards. All market tracking schemes should be rightfully banned.

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            • A [email protected]

              "2020 search"

              Bruh someone's grandma needs help, we need to fix this computer, it looks like it's about to get stuck on zombo.com.

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              Nothing wrong with getting stuck on zombo.com. After all you can do anything there.

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              • T [email protected]

                Not more options, you want your option to win.

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                What does that even mean?

                Most people here would be satisfied with a working website they can access from any browser or OS, mobile or desktop.

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                • A [email protected]

                  Phones are not listening and if you have proof post it. No security researcher has ever posted this.

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                  [https://youtu.be/0dGqR4ue8dg?si=tA1s-S3jdz2SwEoo](Idk i trust Snowden's take on this over yours)

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                  • T [email protected]

                    Could you expand on that thought a bit more? How is an app like the internet tool bars of old?

                    Genuinely curious. I'm a little too young to have experienced internet toolbars like the ones in your image.

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                    Every service and site had their own malicious toolbar they'd ask you to install and / sneak it into the install for other software. They also came loaded with malware and or siphoned data from you. Older/more tech illiterate people would have browsers looking like the picture above and come to you wondering why their computer is so slow or why they keep getting viruses.

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                    • L [email protected]

                      In the US, if you don't have the loyalty card, you're paying more for groceries. For the stores we use, any sale prices are contingent upon using the loyalty card. This can add up to $5-$10 per order.

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                      We used to be free from such bullshit, but some companies have started trying to bring similar systems here in Brazil, especially drugstore brands that would ask for our id number in every order to give "discounts". Fortunately, this practice is now being investigated, and I hope the companies lose the case.

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                      • A [email protected]

                        Every service and site had their own malicious toolbar they'd ask you to install and / sneak it into the install for other software. They also came loaded with malware and or siphoned data from you. Older/more tech illiterate people would have browsers looking like the picture above and come to you wondering why their computer is so slow or why they keep getting viruses.

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                        @alekwithak @techforwhat Norton Antivirus is still at it

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                          Phones are not listening and if you have proof post it. No security researcher has ever posted this.

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                          See:

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                          • Cox Media Group (Alternative non-subscriberwalled link here)
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                            If you want to read this content, please download our app:
                            https://customblogs.vercel.app/download-our-app-please

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                            • C [email protected]

                              I am still using a flip phone. My new goal is to make it to 2027 marking two decades of rejecting the smartphone era. Each time I consider compromising something gets even more awful about smartphones and I double down on saying no.

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                              Don't lose hope, lead the resistance!

                              Out of curiosity, how many flip phones have you used since 2007?

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                              • sunshine@lemmy.caS [email protected]

                                These useless apps make Linux phone adoption harder, fuck them!

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                                I still miss firefox os and feel sad for them not succeeding. Their app system could have become a multiplatform standard and allow us to have much more options in the smartphone market, as well as better desktop integration and interoperability 😞

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                                  most phones now don’t support memory expansion

                                  Well of course not. If phones supported memory expansion you would just buy more memory, instead of buying an entirely new phone
                                  Don't even get me started on how bloated these apps have become. I used Paperclip word processor on a Commodore-64; you can not convince me that your app needs to be 50+ Megs in size.

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                                  And that's one of the benefits from open source apps. I have a very low end and dated phone, and yet I have more apps installed and hardware functionality than the average person, because I grab everything I can from f-droid. It's amazing how much smaller and performant everything is.

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                                    Don't lose hope, lead the resistance!

                                    Out of curiosity, how many flip phones have you used since 2007?

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                                    Out of curiosity, how many flip phones have you used since 2007?

                                    My current phone is a flip phone. A Samsung Galaxy Flip 5

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                                      I want a re-made Bonzi buddy with AI.

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                                      I don't vouch for these, as I have not used them. But, I found this rewritten one and this one with LLM.

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                                        I keep seeing this headline and thinking it's a slur

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                                        • Q [email protected]

                                          I'm shocked.

                                          Right off the top of my head, I can mention an entire finacial institution that only exists through an app. No website, no physical locations, no nothing. It's one app and that is it.

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                                          No way would I use that app.

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