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‘The tyranny of apps’: those without smartphones are unfairly penalised, say campaigners

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    The same goes for customer loyalty cards. All market tracking schemes should be rightfully banned.

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      "2020 search"

      Bruh someone's grandma needs help, we need to fix this computer, it looks like it's about to get stuck on zombo.com.

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      Nothing wrong with getting stuck on zombo.com. After all you can do anything there.

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        Not more options, you want your option to win.

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        What does that even mean?

        Most people here would be satisfied with a working website they can access from any browser or OS, mobile or desktop.

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          Phones are not listening and if you have proof post it. No security researcher has ever posted this.

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          [https://youtu.be/0dGqR4ue8dg?si=tA1s-S3jdz2SwEoo](Idk i trust Snowden's take on this over yours)

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            Could you expand on that thought a bit more? How is an app like the internet tool bars of old?

            Genuinely curious. I'm a little too young to have experienced internet toolbars like the ones in your image.

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            Every service and site had their own malicious toolbar they'd ask you to install and / sneak it into the install for other software. They also came loaded with malware and or siphoned data from you. Older/more tech illiterate people would have browsers looking like the picture above and come to you wondering why their computer is so slow or why they keep getting viruses.

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              In the US, if you don't have the loyalty card, you're paying more for groceries. For the stores we use, any sale prices are contingent upon using the loyalty card. This can add up to $5-$10 per order.

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              We used to be free from such bullshit, but some companies have started trying to bring similar systems here in Brazil, especially drugstore brands that would ask for our id number in every order to give "discounts". Fortunately, this practice is now being investigated, and I hope the companies lose the case.

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                Every service and site had their own malicious toolbar they'd ask you to install and / sneak it into the install for other software. They also came loaded with malware and or siphoned data from you. Older/more tech illiterate people would have browsers looking like the picture above and come to you wondering why their computer is so slow or why they keep getting viruses.

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                @alekwithak @techforwhat Norton Antivirus is still at it

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                  Phones are not listening and if you have proof post it. No security researcher has ever posted this.

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                  See:

                  • MindShift
                  • Cox Media Group (Alternative non-subscriberwalled link here)
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                    If you want to read this content, please download our app:
                    https://customblogs.vercel.app/download-our-app-please

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                      I am still using a flip phone. My new goal is to make it to 2027 marking two decades of rejecting the smartphone era. Each time I consider compromising something gets even more awful about smartphones and I double down on saying no.

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                      Don't lose hope, lead the resistance!

                      Out of curiosity, how many flip phones have you used since 2007?

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                      • sunshine@lemmy.caS [email protected]

                        These useless apps make Linux phone adoption harder, fuck them!

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                        I still miss firefox os and feel sad for them not succeeding. Their app system could have become a multiplatform standard and allow us to have much more options in the smartphone market, as well as better desktop integration and interoperability 😞

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                          most phones now don’t support memory expansion

                          Well of course not. If phones supported memory expansion you would just buy more memory, instead of buying an entirely new phone
                          Don't even get me started on how bloated these apps have become. I used Paperclip word processor on a Commodore-64; you can not convince me that your app needs to be 50+ Megs in size.

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                          And that's one of the benefits from open source apps. I have a very low end and dated phone, and yet I have more apps installed and hardware functionality than the average person, because I grab everything I can from f-droid. It's amazing how much smaller and performant everything is.

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                            Don't lose hope, lead the resistance!

                            Out of curiosity, how many flip phones have you used since 2007?

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                            Out of curiosity, how many flip phones have you used since 2007?

                            My current phone is a flip phone. A Samsung Galaxy Flip 5

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                              I want a re-made Bonzi buddy with AI.

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                              I don't vouch for these, as I have not used them. But, I found this rewritten one and this one with LLM.

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                                I keep seeing this headline and thinking it's a slur

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                                  I'm shocked.

                                  Right off the top of my head, I can mention an entire finacial institution that only exists through an app. No website, no physical locations, no nothing. It's one app and that is it.

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                                  No way would I use that app.

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                                    I for one cheer and root for my flip phone friends.

                                    I'd never do it, but we have one at work and he's singlehandedly causing so much grief at work. Because none of the engineers wanna use a security app for login. They want a fob.

                                    IT refuses to pay for fobs and wants us to use an app, but they also don't want to pay for a phone for anyone in engineering just to use the security app because it opens a floodgate of people with company phones.

                                    It's just wonderful to watch this fight from the sidelines sipping tea.

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                                    what's the rationale for IT not wanting to pay for the fobs?

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                                      I'm never trolling about Linux. On Lemmy there are so many cultists that you can say the most innocuous things and it will be downvoted to oblivion or deleted for "trolling". Maybe you don't like calling it a cult but I get more downvoted for negative comments about Linux them other people do when they literally say Nazi things.

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                                      innocuous

                                      Calling people "cultists" doesn't sound very "innocuous".

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                                        most phones now don’t support memory expansion

                                        Well of course not. If phones supported memory expansion you would just buy more memory, instead of buying an entirely new phone
                                        Don't even get me started on how bloated these apps have become. I used Paperclip word processor on a Commodore-64; you can not convince me that your app needs to be 50+ Megs in size.

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                                        I actually wrote my own text editor for the C-64

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                                          The same goes for customer loyalty cards. All market tracking schemes should be rightfully banned.

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                                          What ticks my off is that I have the stupid Safeway card and the stupid Kroger card. But now there's more deals, better deals if I do a digital coupon requiring the app on my phone, too. It's not enough to know about all the regular items in my home, from celery to toilet paper, but they also must need to hoover up all my digital into as well? Dude, just buy it from Meta or whichever jerks have it all. Half-price grapes ain't the right price.

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