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Linux Distros for Gaming: CachyOS is Taking over (ProtonDB data)

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    I didn't know Pop_OS was no longer being updated. I know I've had recent updates though. Perhaps I should switch distros.

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    The work on cosmic is proceeding and as far as I know when cosmic is done, 24.04 will be released. In the mean time 22.04 still gets updates.

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      The data ☝️

      I'm always surprised by how low the Flatpak share is.

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      flapak when i was using it on arch always had issues getting gamescope to run as the flapak version doesn't match the version in steam. with wine adopting support for native Wayland and improvements to Vulcan layers i think flapak version may start to get more popular. but for now the main limiter is, "do i need gamescope to play?"

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        flapak when i was using it on arch always had issues getting gamescope to run as the flapak version doesn't match the version in steam. with wine adopting support for native Wayland and improvements to Vulcan layers i think flapak version may start to get more popular. but for now the main limiter is, "do i need gamescope to play?"

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        If I'm not mistaken the Gamescope issue in Flatpak is not caused by Arch but the Flatpak itself and how it isolates files, making games escape the Gamescope session

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          If I'm not mistaken the Gamescope issue in Flatpak is not caused by Arch but the Flatpak itself and how it isolates files, making games escape the Gamescope session

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          yeah the flatpak version of gamescope is the latest version which is meant more to be used in something like lutris or directly with wine. my understanding is a bit hazy on the issue but i think flatpak steam or the Vulcan layers required a specific version or you get something about compatibility and the game would still launch but disable gamescope.

          i think the workaround was to install gamescope through pacman and then configure steam to be able to access it.

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            Same. I tried arch many moons ago and heard all the stories and that was enough.

            Maybe it's better by now but fedora has been stable and things like bazzite with immutability exist. Not sure why I'd pick cachy then. Especially if the gains are that minimal.

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            • abnormalhumanbeing@lemmy.abnormalbeings.spaceA [email protected]

              cross-posted from: https://lemmy.abnormalbeings.space/post/6562285

              Companion article here: https://boilingsteam.com/distro-for-gaming-cachy-os-takes-over/

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              3.1% NixOS... that's barely a step below Debian at 3.4%. Is Nix really that popular?

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                Isn't SteamOS Arch-based?

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                • tundra@sh.itjust.worksT [email protected]

                  seems to be specific games, kingdom come deliverance (the original) stuttered & hitched badly on other distros, but cachy was 👌

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                  If you post your system specs and the distros that had that problem, it might help someone else who runs into the same thing. Or it might even hint at a cause more specific than "wasn't running CachyOS".

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                  • abnormalhumanbeing@lemmy.abnormalbeings.spaceA [email protected]

                    cross-posted from: https://lemmy.abnormalbeings.space/post/6562285

                    Companion article here: https://boilingsteam.com/distro-for-gaming-cachy-os-takes-over/

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                    I'm genuinely happy to see people trying out new stuff! I like seeing all the new approaches every distro takes, understanding real use cases, making interesting design decisions at each turn.

                    This is what it used to be like to be a PC enthusiast and I think it's great to see computing become personal again.

                    Now CachyOS I've been following for a while and it seems much closer to something like endeavor which is still prone to all the potential issues I've experienced before. I've moved to ublue Bazzite and bluefin recently because the out of box experience is amazing and updates are pretty much immaculate.

                    I still don't understand what Cachy does in its kernel optimization and BORE scheduler properly but I'd love to learn and understand.

                    Either way, I_see_this_as_an_absolute_win.gif

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                    • abnormalhumanbeing@lemmy.abnormalbeings.spaceA [email protected]

                      cross-posted from: https://lemmy.abnormalbeings.space/post/6562285

                      Companion article here: https://boilingsteam.com/distro-for-gaming-cachy-os-takes-over/

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                      I tried CatchyOS for a HTPC and really liked the UX, but can't remember what happened with it, something broke or couldn't do something, and settled for Bazzite and it's have been working good so far.

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                        Isn't SteamOS Arch-based?

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                        Yes its based on arch packages but its not the same as when people say "arch based distro" because SteamOS doesn't inherit the arch problems because its not on archs update schedule. While other arch based distro's follow the arch schedule and get all the issues that come with bleeding edge software.

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                          Funny that I see an article about CachyOS, i just installed it this morning because of some trouble with an RX 9060 XT that I couldn't get it to work with kubuntu. It just worked out of the box with CachyOS. I know it would probably have worked with other distro but still...

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                          That is likely due to the RX9000 lineup needing the newer kernel for driver support. Kubuntu maybe didnt ship that 6.14 kernel at the time. Cachy is the best for new hardware because they have great tools for switching kernels and patching everything up to the bleeding edge. They make it easy to grab the latest kernel, mesa, nvidia driver or whatever you need for new hardware.

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                          • abnormalhumanbeing@lemmy.abnormalbeings.spaceA [email protected]

                            cross-posted from: https://lemmy.abnormalbeings.space/post/6562285

                            Companion article here: https://boilingsteam.com/distro-for-gaming-cachy-os-takes-over/

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                            Gave CachyOS a try over weekend and I'm back to Fedora. It's not really appealing to me at all but I can see why people like it.

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                              CachyOS claims performance improvement by compiling its packages with CPU-family-specific optimizations. Okay, but most games are not CPU bound, and even those that are mostly spend their CPU time in game code, not distro package-provided code.

                              CachyOS claims interactivity improvement by using the BORE scheduler. Okay, but that's unlikely to help games unless you're running other tasks that compete for CPU time while you play.

                              So for most gamers, I wouldn't expect CachyOS to offer much improvement in either area.

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                              This is the one true CachyOS description. The distro has been gaining so much traction based on naive interpretations of what performance is.

                              It’s not a bad distro, but its advantages are minimal over others. Whatever linux people pick, it will be fine.

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                                If you post your system specs and the distros that had that problem, it might help someone else who runs into the same thing. Or it might even hint at a cause more specific than "wasn't running CachyOS".

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                                If it works and the user is happy, why not Judy go with it? Surely with a ton or research you can find why it works better on cachy and with much not time you can try to replicate on a different distro the myriad of things that can be, and then spend time making sure nothing breaks.

                                Or, hear me out, you can just play the game you wanted to play on the fist place.

                                I'm using Bazzite because it's the first distro where gaming wise everything just works. Only had to fight with the printer/scanner. I wanted to use other OS, but seriously, I also want to play and use my time doing something other than solving problems I've created.

                                If catchy is a batteries included distro that people can use, even if their performance gains are questionable, let them. There's no shame on that.

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                                  I didn't know Pop_OS was no longer being updated. I know I've had recent updates though. Perhaps I should switch distros.

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                                  It's being updated, just not being changed constantly I guess? I dunno, I think it's kinda nice.

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                                    If it works and the user is happy, why not Judy go with it? Surely with a ton or research you can find why it works better on cachy and with much not time you can try to replicate on a different distro the myriad of things that can be, and then spend time making sure nothing breaks.

                                    Or, hear me out, you can just play the game you wanted to play on the fist place.

                                    I'm using Bazzite because it's the first distro where gaming wise everything just works. Only had to fight with the printer/scanner. I wanted to use other OS, but seriously, I also want to play and use my time doing something other than solving problems I've created.

                                    If catchy is a batteries included distro that people can use, even if their performance gains are questionable, let them. There's no shame on that.

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                                    If it works and the user is happy, why not Judy go with it?

                                    There's nothing wrong with Judy using a distro that works well for her. 😉

                                    There's also nothing wrong with sharing information so others can learn, identify patterns, and perhaps find something that works better for them.

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                                    • abnormalhumanbeing@lemmy.abnormalbeings.spaceA [email protected]

                                      cross-posted from: https://lemmy.abnormalbeings.space/post/6562285

                                      Companion article here: https://boilingsteam.com/distro-for-gaming-cachy-os-takes-over/

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                                      Despite the changes around them, both Nobara and Bazzite seem to keep hanging on at a stable share, close to 5% each. However it seems that both have stopped growing at that point and may be stuck at the current threshold. I’m not sure there is however much future when it comes to Bazzite, since SteamOS will eventually be rolling out to more and more devices out there. I guess it depends how much Valve does in terms of hardware support, and if Bazzite provide tangible benefits on top what Valve delivers.

                                      I mean, Nobara is definitely steady or losing some of its share but Bazzite has only ever continued to gain, even if a bit slower now. As far as if it has benefits over SteamOS, well the Steam Deck is the largest percentage of Bazzite users by far, so it's clearly offering something that Valve isn't. I'd say that it's a lot simpler OOTB to set up other store's games with Lutris included.

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                                        3.1% NixOS... that's barely a step below Debian at 3.4%. Is Nix really that popular?

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                                        First before the results, the usual disclaimer, as this data comes from 'ProtonDB':

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                                          Despite the changes around them, both Nobara and Bazzite seem to keep hanging on at a stable share, close to 5% each. However it seems that both have stopped growing at that point and may be stuck at the current threshold. I’m not sure there is however much future when it comes to Bazzite, since SteamOS will eventually be rolling out to more and more devices out there. I guess it depends how much Valve does in terms of hardware support, and if Bazzite provide tangible benefits on top what Valve delivers.

                                          I mean, Nobara is definitely steady or losing some of its share but Bazzite has only ever continued to gain, even if a bit slower now. As far as if it has benefits over SteamOS, well the Steam Deck is the largest percentage of Bazzite users by far, so it's clearly offering something that Valve isn't. I'd say that it's a lot simpler OOTB to set up other store's games with Lutris included.

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                                          Plus, Bazzite doesn't have the same hardware requirements. I have a handheld device that can't install SteamOS because of an incompatible hard drive, but Bazzite works just fine.

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