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Linux Distros for Gaming: CachyOS is Taking over (ProtonDB data)

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  • abnormalhumanbeing@lemmy.abnormalbeings.spaceA [email protected]

    cross-posted from: https://lemmy.abnormalbeings.space/post/6562285

    Companion article here: https://boilingsteam.com/distro-for-gaming-cachy-os-takes-over/

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    Funny that I see an article about CachyOS, i just installed it this morning because of some trouble with an RX 9060 XT that I couldn't get it to work with kubuntu. It just worked out of the box with CachyOS. I know it would probably have worked with other distro but still...

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    • abnormalhumanbeing@lemmy.abnormalbeings.spaceA [email protected]

      cross-posted from: https://lemmy.abnormalbeings.space/post/6562285

      Companion article here: https://boilingsteam.com/distro-for-gaming-cachy-os-takes-over/

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      I keep hearing this, but I don't really want an Arch-based distro because I don't want fixing my computer to become a hobby. I have a 10-year-old PC running Debian 12 that can still play (some) games that came out this year, so it doesn't feel like I should switch.

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      • abnormalhumanbeing@lemmy.abnormalbeings.spaceA [email protected]

        cross-posted from: https://lemmy.abnormalbeings.space/post/6562285

        Companion article here: https://boilingsteam.com/distro-for-gaming-cachy-os-takes-over/

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        The data ☝️

        I'm always surprised by how low the Flatpak share is.

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          I keep hearing this, but I don't really want an Arch-based distro because I don't want fixing my computer to become a hobby. I have a 10-year-old PC running Debian 12 that can still play (some) games that came out this year, so it doesn't feel like I should switch.

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          Fwiw I was avoidant of arch for a long time and took the deep dive a few years back. I've really not had to do any more debugging work than I have to with Debian (which I'm also a fan of and use).

          EndeavourOS helps a lot with smoothing over the possible gotchas and my machines with it tend to run steam games (proton or native) out of the box the majority of the time.

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            I have found that with Arch I don't run out of troubleshooting before the problem is solved like I did with Debian. That said, the learning curve is a little steep so not switching makes sense, but I find it better personally. Just like in Windows things are out of your control I felt that Debian had strong defaults and I had trouble changing them too far. I am sure ignorance played a role but I have found the documentation on the Arch wiki was more useful in actually solving my problems.

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            • abnormalhumanbeing@lemmy.abnormalbeings.spaceA [email protected]

              cross-posted from: https://lemmy.abnormalbeings.space/post/6562285

              Companion article here: https://boilingsteam.com/distro-for-gaming-cachy-os-takes-over/

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              I didn't know Pop_OS was no longer being updated. I know I've had recent updates though. Perhaps I should switch distros.

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                I finally switched from Windows to Linux and chose CachyOS. This was months ago. I never had to fix anything (so far). There was a fuck up by me once, but that wasn't the distros and could've happened on any distro. Honestly couldn't be happier with it being arch based, as it's really nice to basically get anything that is released instantly as a package update.

                I haven't had to hunt for packages that aren't years old for anything as I was used to on Debian (used on most of my servers). And while the AUR is there, I think I got a total of two things installed from there, anything else was just there in the repos.

                But if you've got a setup that already works, and you're happy with, why change anything? Having something that works for you is what makes the large amounts of choices in the Linux world so great.

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                  CachyOS claims performance improvement by compiling its packages with CPU-family-specific optimizations. Okay, but most games are not CPU bound, and even those that are mostly spend their CPU time in game code, not distro package-provided code.

                  CachyOS claims interactivity improvement by using the BORE scheduler. Okay, but that's unlikely to help games unless you're running other tasks that compete for CPU time while you play.

                  So for most gamers, I wouldn't expect CachyOS to offer much improvement in either area.

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                  seems to be specific games, kingdom come deliverance (the original) stuttered & hitched badly on other distros, but cachy was πŸ‘Œ

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                    I didn't know Pop_OS was no longer being updated. I know I've had recent updates though. Perhaps I should switch distros.

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                    The work on cosmic is proceeding and as far as I know when cosmic is done, 24.04 will be released. In the mean time 22.04 still gets updates.

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                      The data ☝️

                      I'm always surprised by how low the Flatpak share is.

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                      flapak when i was using it on arch always had issues getting gamescope to run as the flapak version doesn't match the version in steam. with wine adopting support for native Wayland and improvements to Vulcan layers i think flapak version may start to get more popular. but for now the main limiter is, "do i need gamescope to play?"

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                        flapak when i was using it on arch always had issues getting gamescope to run as the flapak version doesn't match the version in steam. with wine adopting support for native Wayland and improvements to Vulcan layers i think flapak version may start to get more popular. but for now the main limiter is, "do i need gamescope to play?"

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                        If I'm not mistaken the Gamescope issue in Flatpak is not caused by Arch but the Flatpak itself and how it isolates files, making games escape the Gamescope session

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                          If I'm not mistaken the Gamescope issue in Flatpak is not caused by Arch but the Flatpak itself and how it isolates files, making games escape the Gamescope session

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                          yeah the flatpak version of gamescope is the latest version which is meant more to be used in something like lutris or directly with wine. my understanding is a bit hazy on the issue but i think flatpak steam or the Vulcan layers required a specific version or you get something about compatibility and the game would still launch but disable gamescope.

                          i think the workaround was to install gamescope through pacman and then configure steam to be able to access it.

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                            Same. I tried arch many moons ago and heard all the stories and that was enough.

                            Maybe it's better by now but fedora has been stable and things like bazzite with immutability exist. Not sure why I'd pick cachy then. Especially if the gains are that minimal.

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                              cross-posted from: https://lemmy.abnormalbeings.space/post/6562285

                              Companion article here: https://boilingsteam.com/distro-for-gaming-cachy-os-takes-over/

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                              3.1% NixOS... that's barely a step below Debian at 3.4%. Is Nix really that popular?

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                                Isn't SteamOS Arch-based?

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                                • tundra@sh.itjust.worksT [email protected]

                                  seems to be specific games, kingdom come deliverance (the original) stuttered & hitched badly on other distros, but cachy was πŸ‘Œ

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                                  If you post your system specs and the distros that had that problem, it might help someone else who runs into the same thing. Or it might even hint at a cause more specific than "wasn't running CachyOS".

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                                  • abnormalhumanbeing@lemmy.abnormalbeings.spaceA [email protected]

                                    cross-posted from: https://lemmy.abnormalbeings.space/post/6562285

                                    Companion article here: https://boilingsteam.com/distro-for-gaming-cachy-os-takes-over/

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                                    I'm genuinely happy to see people trying out new stuff! I like seeing all the new approaches every distro takes, understanding real use cases, making interesting design decisions at each turn.

                                    This is what it used to be like to be a PC enthusiast and I think it's great to see computing become personal again.

                                    Now CachyOS I've been following for a while and it seems much closer to something like endeavor which is still prone to all the potential issues I've experienced before. I've moved to ublue Bazzite and bluefin recently because the out of box experience is amazing and updates are pretty much immaculate.

                                    I still don't understand what Cachy does in its kernel optimization and BORE scheduler properly but I'd love to learn and understand.

                                    Either way, I_see_this_as_an_absolute_win.gif

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                                    • abnormalhumanbeing@lemmy.abnormalbeings.spaceA [email protected]

                                      cross-posted from: https://lemmy.abnormalbeings.space/post/6562285

                                      Companion article here: https://boilingsteam.com/distro-for-gaming-cachy-os-takes-over/

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                                      I tried CatchyOS for a HTPC and really liked the UX, but can't remember what happened with it, something broke or couldn't do something, and settled for Bazzite and it's have been working good so far.

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                                        Isn't SteamOS Arch-based?

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                                        Yes its based on arch packages but its not the same as when people say "arch based distro" because SteamOS doesn't inherit the arch problems because its not on archs update schedule. While other arch based distro's follow the arch schedule and get all the issues that come with bleeding edge software.

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                                          Funny that I see an article about CachyOS, i just installed it this morning because of some trouble with an RX 9060 XT that I couldn't get it to work with kubuntu. It just worked out of the box with CachyOS. I know it would probably have worked with other distro but still...

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                                          That is likely due to the RX9000 lineup needing the newer kernel for driver support. Kubuntu maybe didnt ship that 6.14 kernel at the time. Cachy is the best for new hardware because they have great tools for switching kernels and patching everything up to the bleeding edge. They make it easy to grab the latest kernel, mesa, nvidia driver or whatever you need for new hardware.

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