Thoughts on KagiHQ? Is it worth paying for a search engine?
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You can always give the trial a go. In my experience (and at the time I tested multiple search engines), Kagi served the most relevant results. I would 100% get a subscription if I could afford it (which I unfortunately can't atm).
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This. I've been hosting+using searxng for a while and the experience is just great ^^
No ads, a manageable amount of websites build on AI content, fast searches, resillient service, ...
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I don’t understand the business model of other search engines, but I see how Kagi can work long-term and that’s why I’m still a customer.
Once you’re a search engine that works for your users, you can do stuff like warning labels for websites that have excessive tracking and just let users filter out any domains from their results.
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So, not worth it.
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I used to but people behind are bastards so I don't give money to them anymore.
It made me think of how I use search engines and most of the time I go on the same websites so I try to avoid search engines.
I use Mojeek with their focus feature (it is like lenses of Kagi).
If I really need a search engine I use Mojeek with no focus, but most of the time the results are not good enough so I give them a feedback and go back on Duckduckgo. -
Kagi is doing business with Yandex, something that might interest you: https://kagifeedback.org/d/5445-reconsider-yandex-integration-due-to-the-geopolitical-status-quo
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I've been using it for more than a year and it's worth every cent. It's not perfect, obviously, but it's already so good. Useful results (no SEO crap) no ads, no tracking, great filtering tools (those alone, to me at least, are already worth paying for) and real cool features. If you have not done so already, get their 100 search trial account and you will see how you like it. I did that and I switched to a paid sub less than 3 days later.
When my first year ended I thought to myself, well, I could try to save me some money here and did not renew kinda yeah, Kagi's cool and all but why pay when there are free options? I ran back to Kagi in the same month I decided to not renew
I if I had to use a free search, it probably would be Brave Search, FYI
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I'm happy with SearXNG.
At the time I had issues with each search engine, and this meta search engine is great for me.You can run one locally on your device, or connect it to a domain like I did, so I use it everywhere: seek[.]agurav[.]xyz
You're welcome to try mine, or use it daily. it'll blend my own activity a bit so it's good for me.
For u, you'll have to trust my word that I don't sell your data or something.
¯_(ツ)_/¯Ultimately, give it a try, and then host your own or use a public instance that you trust.
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Why are they bastards ? I am using Orion for some of my web browsing which is a Kagi product.
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They don't even run their own index anyway, they rely on other search engines too. Kinda like how DuckDuckGo uses Bing under the hood.
So you might as well use SearX anyway, same thing.
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Kinda long to read : https://d-shoot.net/kagi.html
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I've been trying to get into Searx for about a month now, but I just cannot make it work the way I want it to.
The auto-detect is constantly in the wrong country, sometimes throwing me to a random one if I search for a product e.g.
If I lock it to one country it works better, but then it excludes so much potentially useful data.Any advice on how to set it up a bit to make it work better?
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Curious abt this too
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Will take a read thx !
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It is definitely miles ahead in finding genuine content, but paying 10 usd for unlimited or 5 usd for 300 searches is too much for my wallet. I'm hoping if they get enough users then maybe they can introduce another price lowering attempt or pray that I can opt into a family plan with friends.
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Thx for sharing. I do (happily) use Kagi as already stated in my other comment but I'm always willing to be more informed.
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TLDR:
- Spent a third of their initial funding on buying a small clothing factory to give away free shirts to the first 20k subscribers (Noble act from them imo, but financially irresponsible to buy a factory for this)
- Didn't pay taxes in the first 2 years (Apparently under 1000 users they don't need to do taxes or sm and haven't expected 20k users)
- CEO (Vlad) thinks AI can give you unbiased reviews
- Author finds AI tools bullshit and Kagi is doing and planning a lot of AI related stuffs
- CEO is very opinionated and thinks that difference in opinions are "misunderstandings"
- CEO personally writes emails to unsubscribed people about why they have left
- Doesn't have GDPR cause CEO thinks email isn't a personally identifiable information
Probably I have forgot some stuff, but this is the gist of it for me.
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And brave, the one run by this guy https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_Eich
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Since all your searches could be correlated to your account (subscription service) by Kagi, I consider that a major deal-breaker when discussing its privacy.
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On the Orion forums their staff consistently bullies people around
