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EA lost $6 billion in market value, following FC 25 & Dragon Age underperformance news

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  • simple@lemm.eeS [email protected]

    Nature is healing

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    They’ve been running the same money sucking schemes for the last decade. The gravy train is over

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      Normally these articles are slightly alarmist making it sound like a company will fall over becuase of one bad game release and when you look at the share price over time it is still up. but this one is interesting. EA are down 15% over the past 12 months because of this one drop.

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      Yeah most game news websites don't understand stocks but in this case, DA Vanguard was a massive failure. In the press release, the game was played by 1.5 million people. Not copies sold, just played. This probably includes people that just bought a month of EA Play to check it out.

      The newest fifa game (EA sports FC now) also under-performed but they didn't say much about it beyond that. A few more flops and it sounds like EA could be following Ubisoft into crashing hard.

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      • simple@lemm.eeS [email protected]

        Yeah most game news websites don't understand stocks but in this case, DA Vanguard was a massive failure. In the press release, the game was played by 1.5 million people. Not copies sold, just played. This probably includes people that just bought a month of EA Play to check it out.

        The newest fifa game (EA sports FC now) also under-performed but they didn't say much about it beyond that. A few more flops and it sounds like EA could be following Ubisoft into crashing hard.

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        EA could be following Ubisoft into crashing hard.

        I wouldn't miss them. I'm still mad at EA about what they did with Westwood. And they haven't stopped being shit.

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        • simple@lemm.eeS [email protected]

          Nature is healing

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          Hot damn did they ever screw up badly with DAV.

          If they just released what people were expecting (and wanting): Dreadwolf, a true Dragon Age sequel - then it would've sold by the figurative truckload and they'd be riding the money boat right now.

          But no. The reality-disconnected decision makers decreed that it had to be ultra sanitised, corporate, Disney-esque slop. Not an awful game, sure, but absolutely not a Dragon Age game.

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          • simple@lemm.eeS [email protected]

            Yeah most game news websites don't understand stocks but in this case, DA Vanguard was a massive failure. In the press release, the game was played by 1.5 million people. Not copies sold, just played. This probably includes people that just bought a month of EA Play to check it out.

            The newest fifa game (EA sports FC now) also under-performed but they didn't say much about it beyond that. A few more flops and it sounds like EA could be following Ubisoft into crashing hard.

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            Schreier's added context to this is that FC is far more responsible for the financial underperformance than Dragon Age.

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              They’ve been running the same money sucking schemes for the last decade. The gravy train is over

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              With FC, I figured they had that audience by the balls.

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              • ampersandrew@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                With FC, I figured they had that audience by the balls.

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                I think without the FIFA branding, the series lost its luster.

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                • thefeaturecreature@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                  Hot damn did they ever screw up badly with DAV.

                  If they just released what people were expecting (and wanting): Dreadwolf, a true Dragon Age sequel - then it would've sold by the figurative truckload and they'd be riding the money boat right now.

                  But no. The reality-disconnected decision makers decreed that it had to be ultra sanitised, corporate, Disney-esque slop. Not an awful game, sure, but absolutely not a Dragon Age game.

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                  It is my first dragon age game. I have only played a couple hours. While I enjoy it while playing, I feel like I have to force myself to play.

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                    It is my first dragon age game. I have only played a couple hours. While I enjoy it while playing, I feel like I have to force myself to play.

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                    You should play the original if you can, it really is the best Dragon Age game. Steam has a guide to get it up and running on modern machines.

                    Also, were you able to follow the story of Veilguard? I haven't played it yet (and honestly I might never) but I got the impression that it was pretty tied to the story of Inquisition.

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                    • thefeaturecreature@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                      Hot damn did they ever screw up badly with DAV.

                      If they just released what people were expecting (and wanting): Dreadwolf, a true Dragon Age sequel - then it would've sold by the figurative truckload and they'd be riding the money boat right now.

                      But no. The reality-disconnected decision makers decreed that it had to be ultra sanitised, corporate, Disney-esque slop. Not an awful game, sure, but absolutely not a Dragon Age game.

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                      I have been talking a lot with a friend of mine about DAV and Dreadwolf.

                      I really think that even if they released the Dreadwolf, the version from the artbook, they probably won't made a profit, the game could sell well like Inquisition but not like a Cyberpunk/The Witcher 3/BG3 and for the amount of time and resource they used sales like inquisition is not enough. They blew their chances with the 10 years of delays, the IP was not in a good place.

                      Only a miracle, a game on the same level as BG3 for Bioware to make a profit again.

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                        EA could be following Ubisoft into crashing hard.

                        I wouldn't miss them. I'm still mad at EA about what they did with Westwood. And they haven't stopped being shit.

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                        Justice for command and conquer.

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                        • sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyzS [email protected]

                          You should play the original if you can, it really is the best Dragon Age game. Steam has a guide to get it up and running on modern machines.

                          Also, were you able to follow the story of Veilguard? I haven't played it yet (and honestly I might never) but I got the impression that it was pretty tied to the story of Inquisition.

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                          Pardon? Do you mean: Elgar'nan and Ghilan'nain: The Game?

                          The game that has the antagonists named Elgar'nan and Ghilan'nain??

                          Where everyone seems to know the secrets of

                          ::: spoiler Tap for spoiler
                          Elgar'nan and Ghilan'nain
                          :::

                          and how to defeat said villains named Elgar'nan and Ghilan'nain??????!!

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                          • simple@lemm.eeS [email protected]

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                            That’s what they get for torching Westwood

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                              Normally these articles are slightly alarmist making it sound like a company will fall over becuase of one bad game release and when you look at the share price over time it is still up. but this one is interesting. EA are down 15% over the past 12 months because of this one drop.

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                              Another way to see that 15% drop is hinted at in the article:

                              EA FC generates around $2 billion annually, Reuters reports, with around $800 million of that made up by Ultimate Team.

                              Loot boxes made EA $800M last year. It's easy to see why EA and other publishers demand MTX in games. Can we amend "Don't preorder" with "and ignore micro transactions"?

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                                Another way to see that 15% drop is hinted at in the article:

                                EA FC generates around $2 billion annually, Reuters reports, with around $800 million of that made up by Ultimate Team.

                                Loot boxes made EA $800M last year. It's easy to see why EA and other publishers demand MTX in games. Can we amend "Don't preorder" with "and ignore micro transactions"?

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                                @[email protected] Pretty sure that ignoring micro-transactions has always been "a thing" to take a stand against. But of course, when it comes to the general public, no one ever does.

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                                • mereo@lemmy.caM [email protected]

                                  I think without the FIFA branding, the series lost its luster.

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                                  FC 24 did well even after they lost the FIFA license. Something else going on here.

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                                    Pardon? Do you mean: Elgar'nan and Ghilan'nain: The Game?

                                    The game that has the antagonists named Elgar'nan and Ghilan'nain??

                                    Where everyone seems to know the secrets of

                                    ::: spoiler Tap for spoiler
                                    Elgar'nan and Ghilan'nain
                                    :::

                                    and how to defeat said villains named Elgar'nan and Ghilan'nain??????!!

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                                    Yeah ngl, I don't really care for the more Elvish focus that Inquisition (and now I guess Veilguard) has. The best part of DA was always the mix of all the lores clashing.

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                                    • simple@lemm.eeS [email protected]

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                                      Oh no. Won't someone think of the shareholders.

                                      Well, at least they were pioneers in the art of enshittification.

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                                      • ampersandrew@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                                        Schreier's added context to this is that FC is far more responsible for the financial underperformance than Dragon Age.

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                                        They won't say that though, because they have a built in narrative of "we were too woke"; convenient excuse for a less micro transaction heavy game to be blamed, as well as an excuse to be more strict on themes in their games. None of the problems are solved, but they have a scapegoat.

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                                        • cmlvi@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                                          They won't say that though, because they have a built in narrative of "we were too woke"; convenient excuse for a less micro transaction heavy game to be blamed, as well as an excuse to be more strict on themes in their games. None of the problems are solved, but they have a scapegoat.

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                                          I don't think this is a narrative EA is leaning into. Frankly, even if it sold less than they forecast, I'm sure they were happy they sold as much as they did given the troubled production it was converted from.

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