DeepSeek collects keystroke data and more, storing it in Chinese servers

[braininabox@lemmy.ml]

Yes? Is it a surprise that a Chinese company stores it's data on a Chinese server?

[braininabox@lemmy.ml]

It's amazing how Putin has become the Satan figure of the American Civil Religion, personally responsible for all evil in the world.

[braininabox@lemmy.ml]

Based on what? The US imprisons more people, kills more people, tortures more people. The only way to argue that China is more oppressive is basically to start with the assumption they are and then work backwards to justify it.

[braininabox@lemmy.ml]

Correct, the American ones are much worse.

[dev_null@lemmy.ml]

That's the point. There is nothing strange or shady about the fact that things you type into DeepSeek.com are sent to DeepSeek.com. Obviously keystrokes you submit to a website are submitted to the website.

[braininabox@lemmy.ml]

or an impending hot war in Taiwan

When you can't even find things that China actually has done to complain about, so you have to start complaining about things they haven't done.

[ulrich@feddit.org]

I listed a handful of reasons above, of which no one has denied or refuted. Just downvoted.

[braininabox@lemmy.ml]

Sees America doing American things in an extremely American way:

"What are we, a bunch of Asians!"

[braininabox@lemmy.ml]

"I get not bootlicking America, so long as you still accept that America is better than everyone else"

[braininabox@lemmy.ml]

Actually you didn't. You listed a bunch of accusations against China (which were refuted, you just ignored that), but you didn't even try to explain how that's more oppressive than the USA.

[cowbee@lemmy.ml]

That doesn't make any sense, though. The PRC has a Socialist Market Economy, while the US is diving into Neoliberalism and austerity, and relies on Financial Capital (and Imperialism, by extension) while China relies on Industrial Capital.

[ulrich@feddit.org]

I see you are sticking with the pack here and going with generic denial and ignoring my arguments rather than actually refuting them.

[ozoned@lemmy.world]

Chinese company does what American companies have done for 25+ years now!

Is it time for REAL data privacy laws or are we just gonna keep playing whack-a-mole with Chinese tech companies that get us nowhere?

[braininabox@lemmy.ml]

Lol, everyone can see that both I and others have refuted your arguments. You pretending you can't see that only makes you look like a sore loser.

[ulrich@feddit.org]

I'm not pretending. I actually can't see them.

[braininabox@lemmy.ml]

I'd say that your client must be broken, but you're managing to reply to me, despite claiming you can't see my posts.

[fabledaepitaph@lemmy.world]

China isn't going to come get me because Trump and his cronies don't like my lifestyle

[azenis@lemmy.world]

I trust Open Source if it allows me to copy it and review it. I don't trust OpenAI like ChatGPT.

[vfreire85@lemmy.ml]

no sh*t! now tell me, not that it's correct, but what does the chinese intelligence apparatus can do to me vs. what the u.s. intelligence apparatus (which has been collecting intelligence about me since i'm alive) can do to me?

[randomname@scribe.disroot.org]

Is Deepseek Open Source?

Hugging Face researchers are trying to build a more open version of DeepSeek’s AI ‘reasoning’ model

Hugging Face head of research Leandro von Werra and several company engineers have launched Open-R1, a project that seeks to build a duplicate of R1 and open source all of its components, including the data used to train it.

The engineers said they were compelled to act by DeepSeek’s “black box” release philosophy. Technically, R1 is “open” in that the model is permissively licensed, which means it can be deployed largely without restrictions. However, R1 isn’t “open source” by the widely accepted definition because some of the tools used to build it are shrouded in mystery. Like many high-flying AI companies, DeepSeek is loathe to reveal its secret sauce.