DeepSeek collects keystroke data and more, storing it in Chinese servers

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Easy to make claims, I'm still waiting for a single lick of evidence tho

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It's literally in a video you refused to watch. Actual families confronting a CCP government ghoul about the imprisonment of their loved ones. Though I'm sure you will just hand wave that all away and claim they were manufactured by the cia. Because you're not here debating anything in good faith.

And Hell while we're at it. Since you chuckleheads are blocked by the China you defend so much. Go read up on Naomi Wu she was practically an unofficial brand ambassador for creality in Shenzhen. A truly fascinating and wonderful person with a real passion for technology. And creativity. Who made the sin of talking about her life. And how the CCPs bone headed policies had impacted her. My words not hers. She spoke very differentially and sparingly about the idiotic policies. Many of which even the CCP have distance themselves from such as the one child policy. But they are so insecure and fragile that her even talking about her early childhood was too much for them to take.

The true irony is that she is the very sort of person they should be promoting, elevating to prove that they changed from those days and those policies. That they were the sort of people leninists always defend them as. Funny they didn't. Instead threatening her and her loved ones.

I tend not to bring her up by name. Because she is not an activist and just wants to try to live her life. And I respect that. But it's relatively safe here as I said since you all are blocked in China. It likely won't get back in a negative way. And I'm sure you'll just hand wave it away as somehow being more CIA psyops. Sounding as crazy as the local magats conspiracy theories.

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the company states that it may share user information to "comply with applicable law, legal process, or government requests.

Literally every company's privacy policy here in the US basically just says that too.

Not only does DeepSeek collect "text or audio input, prompt, uploaded files, feedback, chat history, or other content that [the user] provide[s] to our model and Services," but it also collects information from your device, including "device model, operating system, keystroke patterns or rhythms, IP address, and system language."

Breaking news, company with chatbot you send messages to uses and stores the messages you send, and also does what practically every other app does for demographic statistics gathering and optimizations.

Companies with AI models like Google, Meta, and OpenAI collect similar troves of information, but their privacy policies do not mention collecting keystrokes. There's also the added issue that DeepSeek sends your user data straight to Chinese servers.

They didn't use the word keystrokes, therefore they don't collect them? Of course they collect keystrokes, how else would you type anything into these apps?

In DeepSeek's privacy policy, there's no mention of the security of its servers. There's nothing about whether data is encrypted, either stored or in transmission, and zero information about safeguards to prevent unauthorized access.

This is the only thing that seems disturbing to me, compared to what we'd like to expect based on the context of what DeepSeek is. Of course, this was proven recently in practice to be terrible policy, so I assume they might shore up their defenses a bit.

All the articles that talk about this as if it's some big revelation just boil down to "company does exactly what every other big tech company does in America, except in China"

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Again, this is not the first time atrocity propaganda is leveled at a government that the US doesn't like. Look at the Nayirah testimony.

A claim is not evidence, regardless of who makes it or at what forum they do it. Evidence is evidence.

Do you have it, or not? Because it seems like you don't.

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I had no idea that you identify as male lol. I do know you're an absolute clown though

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Sad. You can't address what was said. You don't even have an interest in looking into it. Hypocritically squealing about propaganda. While spouting it. There's plenty to criticize the United States on. A lot of the same things you can criticize China on. Well not you. People who thank you critically and engage in good faith however.

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I keep asking for evidence and you keep pontificating about the fact that all you have is claims lmao. Sorry for not letting you deflect from the fact that you don't have evidence.

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Countries share information though. And it is not below a fascist US to give China some nice trade deals for detailed information on queer US-Americans. Nor is it for China to accept such a deal.

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They literally posted a video with actual victims confronting the government. And told the story of another one in particular. Your video has some guy not personally impacted by any of this talking about what he thinks he saw somewhere.

And what's with the projection? You're the one making claims but not actually providing any real evidence. Maybe it's not as bad as the United States says. But it certainly isn't like the Chinese government says it is either.

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Again, a video with claims isn't evidence. If you wanted me to prove the genocide in Gaza, Id have hundreds of videos to show it happening. If you wanted me to prove the Abu Ghraib black sites and the Guantanamo Bay tortures, I'd have plenty to show you as well.

People claiming it in public isn't evidence.

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Collecting keystrokes is very different from collecting text inputted into fields. Keystroke rhythms is even more alarming as that is often used to identify users despite them using privacy settings, or used to collect what’s typed via audio collection.

Your argument that this is no different than other apps is complete crap. Don’t trust any app that collects that information

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So I won't use this for the same reason I don't use any AI? Cool

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"I didn't know it was homophobia, I thought it was misogyny"

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Just host it yourself?

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Not usually. Keystroke info is different than text input, like if you didn’t click onto any field and typed it would only be captured if keystroke are all being grabbed. It’s especially scary if you keep the app running in the bg and then type something and it still captures it. Not saying they’re doing that, but the privacy policy says they might.

The rhythm part is annoying, it’s commonly used to ID people even through things like ad blocks and dns blocks. Could also (in theory) be used to capture what people are typing just by hearing how they type.

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Get it all you can, nvidia's already lobbying to make them a security risk, competition is bad for business.

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The Chinese now have data on my Linux vm and my curiosity about sweet potato and sweet potato recipe. They’re coming for me now!

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By extension, anything that's not self hosted means 3rd party actors snooping. American, Chinese, whoever happens to operate that machine.

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Cope harder with your sneaky edits clown.

Poor baby got their tankie mod friends involved. Would hate to have anyone see you dunked on so hard

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Dunking by being very loudly ignorant?

Damn bro, sure taught me a lesson quoting the state department, I'll never recover from seeing yet another gringo accuse the entire world of atrocities while living on stolen land and eating slave labor foodstuffs while voting for people keeping latino children in concentration camps.

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DeepSeek collects keystroke data and more, storing it in Chinese servers