"China is the future, do you agree?"
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Still hoping for that future that's borderless and red and queer and bold.
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yeah it’s censored because of racism, that’s an amazingly insightful and smart take! you sure showed that dirty racist what-for, i bet they’ll think twice before posting a picture of a cartoon next time. you’re a really good spokesperson for your political beliefs, and you DEFINITELY aren’t coming across like a child right now!
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Do you want to enlighten me about what's funny about depicting a Chinese man as a yellow cartoon bear? Why not a panda? Why specifically a yellow bear?
Why do you think it's censored to begin with?
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Tbh, I was shocked. Much as I'm sympathetic towards China, but I still usually look at it through a lens of realpolitik, like, "Of course they're vying for dominance like everyone else, but at least they're doing it through economic development instead of wars, and it's better if there are two major powers instead of one." Maybe that cynical perspective is more realistic, and maybe XHS users aren't a representative sample of all Chinese people, but still, the fact that so many of the replies were so hopeful and internationalist was genuinely moving to me.
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China hasn't had a war in over 40 years.
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The near future? Yes. Absolutely. The have the best economic and political system so far, and are now building out their military to step into the role of hegemon.
The far future?
Assuming China can crack down on global coal and oil usage and figure out climate change, they'll be paving the way for communism in a couple of generations. If they can successfully solve these issues, crush the capitalist markets, and still maintain their current level of corruption then communism is inevitable by 2100 at the latest.
This will be the last century of kings and ceos. Either the world ends due to climate change and capitalist greed, or humanity prevails through communism. There isn't another option left.
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Well, you're correct that XHS isn't the general population of China, it skews middle-high income, so you aren't getting the full picture. However, from what I've read from many younger Chinese political activists and analysts is that as China is now heavily industrialized, there is a sense of moving out of the over-ambitious optimism of the previous generations to a more grounded, educated, realistic optimism that is genuinely more hopeful as a consequence of its grounding.
China has libs. China has problems. China has struggles. But, by virtue of its position and strategy, the people also take on a generally internationalist character. "Let a hundred flowers bloom," Socialism with Chinese Characteristics is a prediction, more than a description. It's a prediction of Socialism with Ugandan Characteristics, Canadian, Brazilian, etc. That gives a sense of their overall attitude, IMO.
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We'll get there.
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There's little point in interacting with a tankie, ignore and report, and move on.
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The PRC definitely has its problems, but I am especially encouraged by their massive restructuring of their energy grid. I don't think Communism will come by 2100, but maybe 2150 or 2200, as there are going to be Capitalist holdouts for a long time resisting progress.
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You're free to elaborate on the humor of satarizing a Chinese man as a yellow cartoon bear. Calling me a "tankie" for thinking that maybe we shouldn't be using potentially racist caricatures doesn't make much sense to me personally.
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As much as we might criticize the whole, "End of History" idea, I feel like the 90's was the last time Americans had anything like that kind of optimism. There was a feeling that we were entering a new age of international cooperation, and although I was only a child that was something I really believed in. But we soon found new conflicts to be embroiled in a the dream has died and was proven to be foolish and naive, and now everyone across the political spectrum is highly cynical.
I'm sure that there are many cynical people in China too, but I can hardly remember the last time I saw someone who wasn't cynical when it comes to politics. Whether or not it's naive, it hits me on an emotional level.
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The good thing about China is that they have a lot of reason to be hopeful, due to many massive improvements in the last century, skyrocketing in the last decade. USians largely still envision 90s China, and are having that image shattered.
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Earth first, fuck your countries.
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I do not call you a tankie for that, as I also oppose racist caricatures. Instead, I call you a tankie because you seem to be defending Xi a little too much. Have a good evening.
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You were giving sympathetic advice to someone defending the racist caricature you claim to oppose, so pardon me for interpreting it that way. As for "defending Xi a little too much," what does that constitute? Saying people shouldn't use racist caricatures against him?
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I don’t know, will you ever get tired of pushing US disinformation about Chinese local & federal government’s responses to the CIA-backed terrorist attacks in Xinjiang?
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I mean china is an authoritarian state, that kinda thing never works for long
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What's a non-authoritarian state?
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What do you call Tibet then. I know they couldn't fight back that much, but it's a literal invasion.