You can see who upvoted and downvoted a post by viewing it in friendica.
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I mean, when the human element is literally not doing communism, yes, that would be a problem.
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I was thinking just now how there seems to be people who downvotes threads for no apparent reason, even seemingly innocuous and neutral ones.. for example "Kingdom Come has sold 2 million units" 3 downvotes; "This New Algorithm for Sorting Books Is Close to Perfection" 5 downvotes; you get the idea. Now everyone is entitled to their opinion, but It makes me wonder if someone(s) is spam downvoting for some motive.
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Might just be people who are used to having an algorithm so they dislike stuff they don't want to see more of.
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kbin also got rid of the ability to view downvotes. I believe either before the fork or at least before the implosion while mbin were still mostly just pulling from upstream.
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A malicious hosting server could use fake points to blast any message to the top of everyone's feeds until manually banned or defederated
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Over thinking.
Only the instance needs the username to register the vote, the count can then be updated by the instance. Simple and lightweight
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, which is of course faulty logic
...which is why design systems so that when using them we can account for the human element, right? Come on! We have centuries-spanning systems even industries built on that! Engineering, avionics, Yelp reviews...
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It's only fake numbers for posts on the instance.
Not the first malicious instance, wont be the last.
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Yes, it is probably the oldest or second oldest server suite in the fediverse (diaspora is maybe older).
It was an early supporter of statusnet and pump.io, which are the earlier versions of ActivityPub.
It originally used it's own protocol to talk to other friendica instances, but a lot of plug-ins came out adding support for everything, even Facebook support for a while.
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If everyone's votes are public then it seems trivial to see how any particular user votes.
If user shithead69420 downvotes literally everything I post, they're probably not a good faith user.
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Yes, but that's kind of my point?
if downvotes are public, the admin of your instance can see who is downvoting you and then they can take action. If the downvotes are coming from an instance that hides the real user for every vote, you and the admin are SOL.
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My guess is accidentally hitting the button while scrolling, and too lazy to change it.
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I think lemmy instance admins can see this too. Doesn’t even have to be a friendica instance
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Oh I see, you were talking about a hypothetical where all instances hide their votes and so no one knows who is voting on anything.
My assumption was that these vote records would remain transparent on most instances because the instances that hide their votes just get defederated, because those are always going to be instances where trolls hide.
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Yes, that's happened before. They were sending a very large number of votes, so it was immediately obvious. Even a couple dozen from an unknown instance will be noticed, when an admin sees it and says "huh I haven't heard of that instance" and when they look there's nothing there.
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If you can identify all of their instances, yes.
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The first isn't really interesting, and the second is clickbait. I wouldn't say there is no reason for downvoting them.
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I'm not sure how giving every server access to the votes solves that.
The malicious server can make fake users to pump up votes. your server admin has to notice, then check the vote logs, then see what's happening and defederate them. That's pretty much what you described in your scenario, anyways. -
Neato. I don't approve of other people getting to hide vote ratios from us.
It should be an option to enable seeing the exact amounts in Lemmy.
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Yeah. It's kind of lame how they can see it but we don't.
There should be an update that allows users to choose for themselves whether than can see the exact numbers.
