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If nothing happens after we die, what's the point of it all?

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  • liberatedguy@lemmy.mlL [email protected]

    Yeah.
    That's why you are so afraid of the spread of Islaam.

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    Afraid? No, I'm male.

    Disgusted by so much backwards dullness? Totally.

    Baffled by the amount of people believing in imaginary sky-daddies because they're too weak to handle reality on their own? All the time.

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    • liberatedguy@lemmy.mlL [email protected]

      No; it's not all peace.
      It's about truth and justice.

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      It's about control of the peasants. Like every other cult. "Study" harder ๐Ÿ˜

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        We spend our days bound by endless obligations. Yet, even with loneliness, failed relationships, and soul-draining work, people still manage to catch a glimpse of happiness. Why?

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        I like laughing and having sex (which I definitely have a lot of all the time I swear)

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          Well the further you go on, the more likely it is that you find there is no point in anything, we are but a phenomenon in the universe

          But if you look closely you realise many have needs, many have desires, many want to enjoy company and experience many things, they feel a purpose in what they do

          There is a cute plot point in my fav anime, Hunter x Hunter. While the main protagonist Gon has a goal, to find his own father that left him as a baby, his best friend Killia is initially pretty nihilistic. He told his feelings about this to Gon, and he replied that, until he finds his purpose, Killua's goal will just be to be at his side. So, basically, the friendship itself will be his purpose.

          I think the general point is that our potential nihilism is part of our character. We were never supposed to live an individuals and be self-sufficient. Finding a purpose as individuals might not be a solvable problem! We might need another person to get that purpose.

          So while "scientifically" we don't have a purpose, as life itself is a phenomenon and our consciousness is a happy accident of that phenomenon, some people feel a purpose, they feel they want something, and others could simply tag along and find purpose in helping others with theirs.

          At least that's my answer so far ๐ŸคŒ

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          I forgot how good HxH is. Need to rewatch it again sometime.

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          • A [email protected]

            can you tell us about yours? what is the meaning of your life? I know we may not resonate with it and think it's worthless but to you it has a meaning

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            Curiosity.

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              We spend our days bound by endless obligations. Yet, even with loneliness, failed relationships, and soul-draining work, people still manage to catch a glimpse of happiness. Why?

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              The point is whatever we choose for ourselves. Just because we eventually die doesn't mean living isn't worth it. I don't care that one day I'll eventually die, I enjoy living now.

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                Well the further you go on, the more likely it is that you find there is no point in anything, we are but a phenomenon in the universe

                But if you look closely you realise many have needs, many have desires, many want to enjoy company and experience many things, they feel a purpose in what they do

                There is a cute plot point in my fav anime, Hunter x Hunter. While the main protagonist Gon has a goal, to find his own father that left him as a baby, his best friend Killia is initially pretty nihilistic. He told his feelings about this to Gon, and he replied that, until he finds his purpose, Killua's goal will just be to be at his side. So, basically, the friendship itself will be his purpose.

                I think the general point is that our potential nihilism is part of our character. We were never supposed to live an individuals and be self-sufficient. Finding a purpose as individuals might not be a solvable problem! We might need another person to get that purpose.

                So while "scientifically" we don't have a purpose, as life itself is a phenomenon and our consciousness is a happy accident of that phenomenon, some people feel a purpose, they feel they want something, and others could simply tag along and find purpose in helping others with theirs.

                At least that's my answer so far ๐ŸคŒ

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                Good answer.

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                  We spend our days bound by endless obligations. Yet, even with loneliness, failed relationships, and soul-draining work, people still manage to catch a glimpse of happiness. Why?

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                  Paraphrasing something I read somewhere "Do we open a book just to close it again?" That for me, it means that it is not merely for doing something that we exist, but to tell stories, to pass on knowledge, to keep rituals alive, to be a vessel for something beyond ourselves. The important part, same as books, is to tell stories. Everything sparks from there.

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                  • dyskolos@lemmy.zipD [email protected]

                    Afraid? No, I'm male.

                    Disgusted by so much backwards dullness? Totally.

                    Baffled by the amount of people believing in imaginary sky-daddies because they're too weak to handle reality on their own? All the time.

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                    Weak? Dull? Peasant?
                    Give me a break.
                    In your "reality", your life holds as much value as that of a lump of dog excrement.
                    And you have the nerve to call people "weak".
                    No wonder, atheists never created any civilisation. After all, what's the meaning of life, when it is all a giant accident?

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                      I like laughing and having sex (which I definitely have a lot of all the time I swear)

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                      Somehow I'm not able to believe it.

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                        Somehow I'm not able to believe it.

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                        I fuck trust me

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                          Your single existence might be ephemeral, but humanity isn't, your community isn't, and possibly your family either

                          Individualism breaks that sense of purpose, and it teaches us that happiness is made by personal enjoyment of often exclusive activities

                          If we lose trust in our community or in humanity in general, if we imagine the next person to only care about themselves, basivally if we expect individualism from others, we lose hope of feeling a more community-oriented form of happiness! And unfortunately in many places that situation is expected, because people are often indeed individualistic

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                          Your single existence might be ephemeral, but humanity isnโ€™t, your community isnโ€™t, and possibly your family either

                          It is though. Life has existed on this planet for just under 4 Billion years and in that time over 99% of all species to have ever come into existence have gone extinct.

                          Your community & family are no less ephemeral than the life you yourself live, but you won't get to see any of that.

                          If we lose trust in our community or in humanity in general

                          I never had a reason to trust them to begin with, tbh.

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                            We spend our days bound by endless obligations. Yet, even with loneliness, failed relationships, and soul-draining work, people still manage to catch a glimpse of happiness. Why?

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                            Existential crisis moment:

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                            • G [email protected]

                              We spend our days bound by endless obligations. Yet, even with loneliness, failed relationships, and soul-draining work, people still manage to catch a glimpse of happiness. Why?

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                              Something doesn't have to exist forever to have meaning, that seems like a holdover from utopic afterlife religious indoctrination.

                              We can enjoy a movie or a lunch knowing it will end, I can pursue meaning and find multiple purposes throughout a lifetime.

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                                We spend our days bound by endless obligations. Yet, even with loneliness, failed relationships, and soul-draining work, people still manage to catch a glimpse of happiness. Why?

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                                Why does there need to be a point?

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                                • G [email protected]

                                  We spend our days bound by endless obligations. Yet, even with loneliness, failed relationships, and soul-draining work, people still manage to catch a glimpse of happiness. Why?

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                                  To enjoy the chemical pleasures that life has to offer, in its fullest.

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                                  • G [email protected]

                                    We spend our days bound by endless obligations. Yet, even with loneliness, failed relationships, and soul-draining work, people still manage to catch a glimpse of happiness. Why?

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                                    There is no point, you make it yourself. And plenty of people manage to catch a glimpse of happiness because there's plenty to be happy about.

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                                      Paraphrasing something I read somewhere "Do we open a book just to close it again?" That for me, it means that it is not merely for doing something that we exist, but to tell stories, to pass on knowledge, to keep rituals alive, to be a vessel for something beyond ourselves. The important part, same as books, is to tell stories. Everything sparks from there.

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                                      We're all just stories in the end.

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                                      • G [email protected]

                                        We spend our days bound by endless obligations. Yet, even with loneliness, failed relationships, and soul-draining work, people still manage to catch a glimpse of happiness. Why?

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                                        There is no point, we don't exist for a reason, we're just a thing that happened in the universe by random chance.

                                        That's not an inherently bad thing though, heck, the concept of "bad" isn't even "real", it's just an invention we came up with.

                                        But I digress. We must find out own purpose and meaning in life, it won't be handed to us. Think of the journey as a fun ride with no rules, there are no gods, the universe doesn't judge you, you are unique and weird and amazing and can interact with the universe in ways no gigantic star or powerful black hole ever could.

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                                        • liberatedguy@lemmy.mlL [email protected]

                                          Weak? Dull? Peasant?
                                          Give me a break.
                                          In your "reality", your life holds as much value as that of a lump of dog excrement.
                                          And you have the nerve to call people "weak".
                                          No wonder, atheists never created any civilisation. After all, what's the meaning of life, when it is all a giant accident?

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                                          Just for the sake of the thought you'd actually be willing to talk about this (which i highly doubt, as your nick already hints at):
                                          YOU assume life has no meaning because it's an accident. Why does it even HAVE to have a meaning? Why can't it just be? So your brain can make "sense" of it all?
                                          Also no one's life holds any intrinsic value at all. And only because you joined some cult and follow some abitrary rules (that the next cult of the same flavour does totally different, so who's "right" to begin with?) doesn't give your life value. To this planet you're as valuable as a leaf or said excrement. Which is, in fact, way more useful for nature than YOU are or ever will be.

                                          Weak? Yeah of course. How else would you call it when someone needs someone else to tell them what to think, do or believe? If that's not the weakest form someone could assume, then I have no idea what "weak" even is.

                                          Also, I'm no atheist, but thanks for assuming ๐Ÿ™‚

                                          PS: I find it really funny, that you use the word "reality" while you also believe in tons of unproovable fairy-tales from times long gone. Even with a mythical creator of all and everything that actually cares about wether you (and millions of others) pray or abuse your wife correctly. Exactly what every omnipotent being would totally love to.

                                          Anyhow, more than likely i'm wasting my time here. Luckily I have so much of it ๐Ÿ™‚

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