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does lemmy discriminate community against instances?

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  • R [email protected]

    Yay, my somewhat randomly chosen people

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    sdf users seem to pop up with lots of self made content. Which is really awesome.

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    • snotflickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

      I'd say blahaj users are biased against .ml users

      Which is right in line with how historically both the Right and the Left have failed miserably at LGBTQ+ representation and rights.

      The militant left of the past was still steeped in machismo and as such, in places like Cuba, being homosexual or transgender was punishable by law until the late 1990's. The social ostracism runs deep when it is politically/legally enforced so long. It is finally changing for the better.

      China is also the Left, and they have a similarly long history of denying LGBTQ+ rights, although to be fair they are slowly getting better in some ways.

      It can make folks in the LGBTQ+ community feel like they're political pawns on a chessboard, to be used and discarded at will because the leaders of the movements see them as useful but expendable.

      Feeling like you're expendable politically sucks, as does feeling like your just a pawn in someone else's game. There's a reason they called it "Rainbow Capitalism" when companies would hype Pride month and then forget about them the rest of the year.

      For current evidence even more "liberal" companies are dropping anything and everything to do with LGBTQ+ rights and representation. Google was definitely seen as a forward-thinking progressive company for a long time, and they've already dropped Pride Month from Google Calendar. They have plenty of LGBTQ+ employees, and they're happy to throw them under the bus.

      I would like to say the Left is slowly getting better at this, but it's still taking far too long. People's lives are being wasted waiting for people to respect their rights.

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      Do you think that Wikipedia is going to be unbiased on a country that has been the USA's enemy and under perpetual blockade and embargo for 70 years?

      If I might suggest an alternative resource for any reader interested, Leslie Feinberg wrote a book which is free, called Rainbow Solidary : In Defense of Cuba. It is free to read as PDF here https://www.workers.org/wp-content/uploads/LavenderRed_Cubabook.pdf. It was hir last book before hir premature death. Zie was LGBT activist who also wrote Stone Butch Blues, Transgender Warriors and Trans Liberation : Beyond Pink and Blue.

      It is a nuanced book, which covers the history of Cuba's LGBT community pre-colonization, under Spanish colonization, under US control after the Spanish-American War and the two dictatorships of the early to mid 20th century, moving into the communist regime into the 00s.

      It covers the bad, machismo culture and the UMAP camps, slide back on rights at certain times, but it also quite clearly outlines the historical progress they made on LBGT rights, often ahead of the rest of the world. You say they were arresting trans people in the 80s-90s, when they were literally flying their doctors to East Germany to learn how to do state funded gender affirming surgery at that time.

      It's a worthwhile read. Cuba is not and wasn't ever perfect, but the communist party and the LGBT community in dialectical relationship with one and another have shaped a course that is historically progressive and inspirational.

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      • S [email protected]

        Does the instance a user is on (visible after their username) affect how they are perceived, either positively or negatively, by you or others?

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        Meh. There are so many instances that I don't really judge someone by what instance they're on; I judge someone based on what they do.

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        • snotflickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

          I'd say blahaj users are biased against .ml users

          Which is right in line with how historically both the Right and the Left have failed miserably at LGBTQ+ representation and rights.

          The militant left of the past was still steeped in machismo and as such, in places like Cuba, being homosexual or transgender was punishable by law until the late 1990's. The social ostracism runs deep when it is politically/legally enforced so long. It is finally changing for the better.

          China is also the Left, and they have a similarly long history of denying LGBTQ+ rights, although to be fair they are slowly getting better in some ways.

          It can make folks in the LGBTQ+ community feel like they're political pawns on a chessboard, to be used and discarded at will because the leaders of the movements see them as useful but expendable.

          Feeling like you're expendable politically sucks, as does feeling like your just a pawn in someone else's game. There's a reason they called it "Rainbow Capitalism" when companies would hype Pride month and then forget about them the rest of the year.

          For current evidence even more "liberal" companies are dropping anything and everything to do with LGBTQ+ rights and representation. Google was definitely seen as a forward-thinking progressive company for a long time, and they've already dropped Pride Month from Google Calendar. They have plenty of LGBTQ+ employees, and they're happy to throw them under the bus.

          I would like to say the Left is slowly getting better at this, but it's still taking far too long. People's lives are being wasted waiting for people to respect their rights.

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          historically

          Right now Cuba has the most equal LGBT rights in the world.

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          • B [email protected]

            Preface to say I don’t necessarily hold these views, just my observation:

            • .ml is considered “tankie”

            • Blahaj.zone is shitposty and pretty solidly trans-friendly/oriented

            • .world is “neutral,” and I think federated with most instances (I joined this one bc I was brand new here and it seemed beginner friendly, but lean further left so ¯_(ツ)_/¯)

            • Lemm.ee runs similar to .world but maybe slightly more right leaning

            • Sh.it.justworks is predominantly techie

            • Sopuli.xyz seems primarily meme-centric

            • Feddit.org seems neutral-ish and more EU based, beyond that don’t know much

            I’m sure there’s others I’m missing/stereotypes I’m wildly wrong about or not yet informed but that’s what I’ve gleaned so far.

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            .world is “neutral,” and I think federated with most instances

            Nah, .world is the right wing instance, and also pretty defed happy

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            • emberleaf@lemmy.mlE [email protected]

              .ml is considered 'Tankie'?? First I've heard of this, and I've yet to see anything that would give any kind of credence to that claim. How weird...

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              Remember, this is .world saying it.

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                Yeah, some people really fucking hate .ml folks, and I've even heard people shit talk sh.itjust.works.

                Also, hexbear was a thing.

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                  Does the instance a user is on (visible after their username) affect how they are perceived, either positively or negatively, by you or others?

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                  #46

                  I want to be discriminated against from my own merits and not whatever instance I chose. I was originally posting out of Mastodon anyways.

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                  • fizz@lemmy.nzF [email protected]

                    If you dont nail it down they'll pirate it from you 🏴‍☠️

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                    #47

                    Why can’t the nails be pirated?

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                      Yeah, some people really fucking hate .ml folks, and I've even heard people shit talk sh.itjust.works.

                      Also, hexbear was a thing.

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                      Hexbear still is a thing, not sure what you're referring to.

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                      • communism@lemmy.mlC [email protected]

                        I think some users who use the fediverse a lot may judge on instance. I don't really, except sometimes when I see a reactionary comment from .world and I'm like, "yeah that checks out".

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                        Yep. I don't judge a comment before reading it, but there are a couple of instances where I will think "yeah, not surprised".

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                        • cowbee@lemmy.mlC [email protected]

                          Instances over time coalesce into certain ideological stances, a curious aspect of federation it seems. This absolutely has an impact on interaction.

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                          On the other hand, some have explicit ideological positions or themes (e.g. lemmygrad.ml, slrpnk.net) and others are shaped by moderation (.ml taking a hard stance against the sinophobia normal in mainatream media, .world and a few other instances/staff banning comments making light of violence e.g. luigi)

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                            Yeah, some people really fucking hate .ml folks, and I've even heard people shit talk sh.itjust.works.

                            Also, hexbear was a thing.

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                            literally I just chose this instance because I like the seal, I hate tribalism I just wanted a cute seal 😭😭

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                              Why can’t the nails be pirated?

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                              Are you kidding? The nails are also pirates!

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                              • S [email protected]

                                Does the instance a user is on (visible after their username) affect how they are perceived, either positively or negatively, by you or others?

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                                I'm agreeing with all the people who say they don't notice until after they've read a post, but I wanted to add a Yo ho! to my comment.

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                                  Preface to say I don’t necessarily hold these views, just my observation:

                                  • .ml is considered “tankie”

                                  • Blahaj.zone is shitposty and pretty solidly trans-friendly/oriented

                                  • .world is “neutral,” and I think federated with most instances (I joined this one bc I was brand new here and it seemed beginner friendly, but lean further left so ¯_(ツ)_/¯)

                                  • Lemm.ee runs similar to .world but maybe slightly more right leaning

                                  • Sh.it.justworks is predominantly techie

                                  • Sopuli.xyz seems primarily meme-centric

                                  • Feddit.org seems neutral-ish and more EU based, beyond that don’t know much

                                  I’m sure there’s others I’m missing/stereotypes I’m wildly wrong about or not yet informed but that’s what I’ve gleaned so far.

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                                  Where did you get the impression that Lemm.ee is (more) right-leaning?
                                  Lemm.ee does not really have a leaning (in the fediverse).

                                  Lemm.ee has awesome uptime, hands of moderation, up to date Lemmy, and doesn't defedarate (we live in the glorious age of Lemmy 19 and not in the dark ages anymore; the user can block stuff).

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                                  • cowbee@lemmy.mlC [email protected]

                                    Hexbear still is a thing, not sure what you're referring to.

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                                    They're defederated on .world and probably some other lib instances. I moved to ml because I didn't like the vibe on world, especially their rabid obsession with "tankies"

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                                      Does the instance a user is on (visible after their username) affect how they are perceived, either positively or negatively, by you or others?

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                                      yes, it's basic tribalism

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                                        literally I just chose this instance because I like the seal, I hate tribalism I just wanted a cute seal 😭😭

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                                        Same, brother.

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                                        • T [email protected]

                                          literally I just chose this instance because I like the seal, I hate tribalism I just wanted a cute seal 😭😭

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                                          I chose it because shit never just works - and I'm a techie person.

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