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Which is best at mitigating browser fingerprinting? Firefox (with or without arkenfox)? Librewolf? Mullvad browser?

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  • M [email protected]

    Use this site to test your uniqueness in different browsers and VPN setups:

    https://abrahamjuliot.github.io/creepjs/

    I have found that Mullvad Browser + VPN (with DAITA and Multihop ON) are better than FireFox or LibreWolf. Me and another user on here went through a little back and forth comparing some things. Just follow the comment thread from here:

    https://programming.dev/comment/15090531

    (take it with a grain of salt and DYOR, we are not experts)

    Also, I love Tor, but another reason to be careful: exit nodes can be run by anyone, including bad actors and any 3-letter agency in the world. At the very least, add a VPN layer when using Tor.

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    For the record you can exclude certain countries from your tor options. I am of the opinion that most people aren't going to need to avoid government stuff, but if you do, exclude, say, 5 eyes countries if you live in one.

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    • zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.mlZ [email protected]

      Tor is off the table for me because it's so slow. If you can point to some test sites or documentation that supports your choice, please include!

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      Can't someone come up with a browser that just randomly lies when asked about the characteristics that could be used for fingerprinting?

      Except for trusted, whitelisted sites.

      That seems like it would be a pretty good privacy enhancer.

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        Tor is off the table for me because it's so slow. If you can point to some test sites or documentation that supports your choice, please include!

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        You need to use or spoof a browser that is used by a lot of people, and have a screen resolution (or spoof) that is common (like 1920x1080), and set the browser to only use basic fonts like times new roman, consolas. Avoid sites that use canvas, or install a canvas blocker, which basically ignores this html element when loading the page. Mitigating fingerprinting is about blending in

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        • F [email protected]

          Can't someone come up with a browser that just randomly lies when asked about the characteristics that could be used for fingerprinting?

          Except for trusted, whitelisted sites.

          That seems like it would be a pretty good privacy enhancer.

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          It would really stand out.

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            I don't think many people here use Brave Browser because of their crypto referral program, but they've made strides at mitigating fingerprinting. I use Brave Browser on my PC and Android and never had an issue.

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            Brave is a series scam company.

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            • zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.mlZ [email protected]

              Tor is off the table for me because it's so slow. If you can point to some test sites or documentation that supports your choice, please include!

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              Mullvad browser

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              • marcie@lemmy.mlM [email protected]

                Mullvad and it isn't close. I use it to circumvent bans on social media when I say something too communist

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                Facebook doesn't care about vpns or fake users/accounts because it drives enfagement.

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                  It would really stand out.

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                  It would produce something completely different every time.

                  You either need to be indistinguishable from everyone else, or indistinguishable from your last page load.

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                  • invisiblerasta@lemmy.mlI [email protected]

                    Its is pretty easy to get rid of all the brave crap. You just need a policy file:

                    # cat /etc/brave/policies/managed/brave_policies.json
                    {
                        "BraveRewardsDisabled": true,
                        "BraveWalletDisabled": true,
                        "BraveVPNDisabled": 1,
                        "BraveAIChatEnabled": true,
                        "NewTabPageLocation": "https://search.brave.com/",
                        "TorDisabled": false,
                        "PasswordManagerEnabled": false,
                        "DnsOverHttpsMode": "automatic"
                    }
                    
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                    #31

                    Yeah but i don't want to recommend a browser to someone just for them to have some cryptocurrency, AI chatbot, and Ad reward program shoved in their face.

                    And then telling them that they Can get rid of it, they just have to go make some file they don't understand in a location on their hard drive they've never been to.

                    Because being real, if Brave's bloat was bundled into an antivirus software, it would rightfully raise red flags for anyone with standard computer literacy.

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                      Yeah but i don't want to recommend a browser to someone just for them to have some cryptocurrency, AI chatbot, and Ad reward program shoved in their face.

                      And then telling them that they Can get rid of it, they just have to go make some file they don't understand in a location on their hard drive they've never been to.

                      Because being real, if Brave's bloat was bundled into an antivirus software, it would rightfully raise red flags for anyone with standard computer literacy.

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                      well yeah I guess some decide to make revenue with this "shady" practices like brave does and others just take 400 millions from google.

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                      • F [email protected]

                        Can't someone come up with a browser that just randomly lies when asked about the characteristics that could be used for fingerprinting?

                        Except for trusted, whitelisted sites.

                        That seems like it would be a pretty good privacy enhancer.

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                        Not sure about the whitelisting part, but I think this is what Brave already does. Randomizing fingerprinted data as opposed to blending in. Makes it hard to build a profile on.

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                        • invisiblerasta@lemmy.mlI [email protected]

                          well yeah I guess some decide to make revenue with this "shady" practices like brave does and others just take 400 millions from google.

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                          I mean, I fault Mozilla for that, and a lot of other things especially in light of recent developments. But Brave still fosters user dependency on a google project, ceding browser engine market dominance toward google. I might be bale to give Brave a pass for its faults if it was making strong moves in creating a truly free and open internet, but as-is they've basically taken an open-source project, applied their own branding, and baked in functionality that on a better engine can be replicated with more granular control by extensions.

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                          • zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.mlZ [email protected]

                            Tor is off the table for me because it's so slow. If you can point to some test sites or documentation that supports your choice, please include!

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                            Haven't heard any opinions on arkenfox yet...anyone have any thoughts?

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                            • P [email protected]

                              It would produce something completely different every time.

                              You either need to be indistinguishable from everyone else, or indistinguishable from your last page load.

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                              No, the point is... It might be obvious you're using that specific browser, since it'd be very niche, and combined with something like your IP and maybe something like browsing patterns that might be enough to identify you.

                              It doesn't matter how much fingerprinting information you hide if you replace it with new information that's just as useful.

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