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    "Division" is good when one side is fucking Nazis who are literally Sieg Hiel saluting each other. You're not supposed to get along with or cooperate with Nazis. Stop with this bullshit false equivalence. At this point it's downright dangerous.

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      "Division" is good when one side is fucking Nazis who are literally Sieg Hiel saluting each other. You're not supposed to get along with or cooperate with Nazis. Stop with this bullshit false equivalence. At this point it's downright dangerous.

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      I am talking about citizens. What if we had this attitude about Russia during WW2 and Afghanistan? Please close your eyes and try to imagine that.

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        I am talking about citizens. What if we had this attitude about Russia during WW2 and Afghanistan? Please close your eyes and try to imagine that.

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        Nothing you're saying makes sense actually. What are you talking about?

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          Nothing you're saying makes sense actually. What are you talking about?

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          Historical facts. Both those wars would have gone very differently if not for working with people with whom we had ideological differences.

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            Historical facts. Both those wars would have gone very differently if not for working with people with whom we had ideological differences.

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            Are you saying the US-Afghan war could've been successful? Or do you think it was successful, and somehow a result of working with ideological differences?

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              Historical facts. Both those wars would have gone very differently if not for working with people with whom we had ideological differences.

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              You said:

              “leftists” are as hell- bent on division as rightists

              and then cited an example where we cooperated with communists (leftists) to defeat Nazis (right-wing fascists). Seems to me that we should always cooperate with leftists and never cooperate with Nazis. Again, what is your point?

              My point is that being saying,

              “leftists” are as hell- bent on division as rightists

              You are watering down history and making a dangerous false equivalence. We are dealing with Nazis right now, and it seems to me that your point is that we should "settle our differences" and try to work with them. If that is your point of view (I'm hoping it's not), that is really short-sighted. Nazi ideology does not involve compromise. It involves killing anyone who does not look/think/act like you.

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                Neither did he last administration and neither will the next.

                That's like saying that neither tepid bath water nor boiling tea water are "cold."

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                I don't actually agree that your analogy applies, because it ignores my point.

                Neither "side" (as if there were only a binary choice but that's how they want you to think) wants you to have privacy. Be united with those who want to fight for those rights instead of divided on other policies which are political smokescreens.

                Maybe a better analogy is that we are drowning in water that is not cold, maybe it's tepid and maybe its boiling. But arguing over which is worse really doesn't matter because we'll be dead in a minute anyway.

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                  Neither did he last administration and neither will the next. They want us polarized and fighting each other so we don't fight them.

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                  Neither did he last administration and neither will the next.

                  How the fuck are people still this clueless

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                    I am talking about citizens

                    Nazis are citizens. Unfortunately.

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                      I don't actually agree that your analogy applies, because it ignores my point.

                      Neither "side" (as if there were only a binary choice but that's how they want you to think) wants you to have privacy. Be united with those who want to fight for those rights instead of divided on other policies which are political smokescreens.

                      Maybe a better analogy is that we are drowning in water that is not cold, maybe it's tepid and maybe its boiling. But arguing over which is worse really doesn't matter because we'll be dead in a minute anyway.

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                      My life would be much worse if I lived through a boiling water bath than if I managed to live through a room temperature bath, so very good analogy.

                      The eugenicists running the country have cooked it already so even if we survive it's still horribly damaged forever.

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