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Cozy.io as a replacement for Proton Drive?

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  • coldmoon@sh.itjust.worksC [email protected]

    If the US wants your info they’ll just beat your ass half to death with a rubber hose.

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    The rusty wrench approach

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    • coldmoon@sh.itjust.worksC [email protected]

      If the US wants your info they’ll just beat your ass half to death with a rubber hose.

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      Still worth doing. At that point they have to make a deal for your compliance.

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      • internetcitizen2@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

        Still worth doing. At that point they have to make a deal for your compliance.

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        The deal is they kill you, you are not that valuable to them in the end. If you are, you wind up at a black site with some guy who’s not in the military.

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        • coldmoon@sh.itjust.worksC [email protected]

          The deal is they kill you, you are not that valuable to them in the end. If you are, you wind up at a black site with some guy who’s not in the military.

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          And at that point its up to you if you want to give it up. The point is you are enforcing compliance to protect your rights. Please go lick boot somewhere else.

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          • southsamurai@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

            Well, ignoring anything else, cozy lacks the encryption proton drive has.

            Which makes it little or no better than any other cloud provider, afaict.

            But, if you can't make use of proton being encrypted because they're dipshits about making their stuff Linux friendly, then they're no better than any other options. So you might as well go with whatever gives you the most bang for the buck

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            Well, ignoring anything else, cozy lacks the encryption proton drive has.

            Do you by any chance have a reference for that? I believe you, I'd just like to read a little more about it. Of course then there's also Cryptomator if the host doesn't properly protect your stuff . . .

            I can make use of Proton Drive, but using the web client only, which is extremely cumbersome. There is rclone, but I'm not smart enough to understand how to set it up. 🤕 IIRC, of all the Proton Apps, Drive is the only one lacking a Linux client.

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            • internetcitizen2@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

              And at that point its up to you if you want to give it up. The point is you are enforcing compliance to protect your rights. Please go lick boot somewhere else.

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              My friend, everything you don’t understand is not bootlicking. Grow up. I’m an anarcho-communist.

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              • zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.mlZ [email protected]

                Well, ignoring anything else, cozy lacks the encryption proton drive has.

                Do you by any chance have a reference for that? I believe you, I'd just like to read a little more about it. Of course then there's also Cryptomator if the host doesn't properly protect your stuff . . .

                I can make use of Proton Drive, but using the web client only, which is extremely cumbersome. There is rclone, but I'm not smart enough to understand how to set it up. 🤕 IIRC, of all the Proton Apps, Drive is the only one lacking a Linux client.

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                A reference? No, but I checked out their site, searched for any mentions of encryption, and the only part of their services that mention out is their password keeper. Since they only mention it there, that would point to that being the only part that has it, since neglecting to mention it for other aspects seems like a giant gap in their marketing

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                • southsamurai@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

                  A reference? No, but I checked out their site, searched for any mentions of encryption, and the only part of their services that mention out is their password keeper. Since they only mention it there, that would point to that being the only part that has it, since neglecting to mention it for other aspects seems like a giant gap in their marketing

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                  Yeah, I couldn't find anything much there either! Oh well.

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                  • coldmoon@sh.itjust.worksC [email protected]

                    My friend, everything you don’t understand is not bootlicking. Grow up. I’m an anarcho-communist.

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                    And yet you ask people to relinquish part of their defense?

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                    • internetcitizen2@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

                      And at that point its up to you if you want to give it up. The point is you are enforcing compliance to protect your rights. Please go lick boot somewhere else.

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                      Who’s enforcing whom to comply with what now?

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                      • davel@lemmy.mlD [email protected]

                        Who’s enforcing whom to comply with what now?

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                        If you encrypt then you enforced your rights to unreasonable searches.

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                        • internetcitizen2@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

                          And yet you ask people to relinquish part of their defense?

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                          Where did I ask that?

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                          • coldmoon@sh.itjust.worksC [email protected]

                            Where did I ask that?

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                            If the US wants your info they’ll just beat your ass half to death with a rubber hose.

                            Your statement here and every follow up suggest you are asking people to not encrypt. I am saying its worth doing regardless as you impose your own compliance on unreasonable searches.

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                            • internetcitizen2@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

                              If the US wants your info they’ll just beat your ass half to death with a rubber hose.

                              Your statement here and every follow up suggest you are asking people to not encrypt. I am saying its worth doing regardless as you impose your own compliance on unreasonable searches.

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                              You don’t understand what I’m saying at all.

                              You need to understand your exposure, and who your adversary is. Is it big corps? Hackers? Oppressive governments? NSAs?

                              What I’m saying is if you’re trying to hide stuff from the last two, you shouldn’t have anything encryptable that they can get to. Keeping that information digitally and not clandestinely is not good.

                              If you’re trying to not get tracked online by Google that’s an entirely different approach.

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                              • zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.mlZ [email protected]

                                Joan Westenberg mentioned this in her "Trump-proof tech stack" post; anyone have any experience with this? It says it's open source, self-hostable, and based in France.

                                Unfortunate Andy Yen comments aside, a big plus is that cozy actually has a Linux desktop client (!), unlike Proton.

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                                If you don't want to host your own data, take a look at TarSnap

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