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  • user224@lemmy.sdf.orgU [email protected]

    It often feels like I am just a user of someone else's device.

    Even from the stuff that is shown like "Your device has new features" and "Settings changed by carrier". And how Motorola tried forcing updates by using non-dismisable (they would re-appear immediately) full-screen notifications, and trying to disable the app led me to "Blocked by your IT admin" (I returned that phone).
    Also when I connect any modern phone to Wi-Fi not manually set as metered it starts downloading a bunch of random shit automatically.
    It keeps killing apps I want running (I had to use a cheap dumb phone as alarm clock with the past 2 smartphones), but keeps all Google services conveniently spending data and battery.

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    Also when I connect any modern phone to Wi-Fi not manually set as metered it starts downloading a bunch of random shit automatically.

    That must be a carrier phone, right?

    Usually, unlocked non-carrier phones would download stuff during setup, but after setup, they don't do that anymore (well, except the safetycore thing).

    It keeps killing apps I want running (I had to use a cheap dumb phone as alarm clock with the past 2 smartphones)

    For Samsung, you have to go to Settings --> Device Care --> Memory --> Excluded Apps --> Tap the + Symbol then find the apps to add. that should prevent it from being killed due to memory.

    Then you need to set battery usage to "Unrestricted" (you can find this in the app's setting page). Then there's also another sexret menu to disable battery optimization that you'll need an app called "Activity Launcher" to find. Search "Power" in the app, then tap "Settings" --> "Optimize battery usage" --> launch it. Then tap "Apps not optimized" then tap "All" then you find the apps and uncheck battery optimizations.

    Its such a cumbersome process, most people would just give up.

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      Thanks!

      Is graphene available on Xiaomi phones?

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      Only on Google Pixel phones. You might want give LineageOS a shot.

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        Also when I connect any modern phone to Wi-Fi not manually set as metered it starts downloading a bunch of random shit automatically.

        That must be a carrier phone, right?

        Usually, unlocked non-carrier phones would download stuff during setup, but after setup, they don't do that anymore (well, except the safetycore thing).

        It keeps killing apps I want running (I had to use a cheap dumb phone as alarm clock with the past 2 smartphones)

        For Samsung, you have to go to Settings --> Device Care --> Memory --> Excluded Apps --> Tap the + Symbol then find the apps to add. that should prevent it from being killed due to memory.

        Then you need to set battery usage to "Unrestricted" (you can find this in the app's setting page). Then there's also another sexret menu to disable battery optimization that you'll need an app called "Activity Launcher" to find. Search "Power" in the app, then tap "Settings" --> "Optimize battery usage" --> launch it. Then tap "Apps not optimized" then tap "All" then you find the apps and uncheck battery optimizations.

        Its such a cumbersome process, most people would just give up.

        user224@lemmy.sdf.orgU This user is from outside of this forum
        user224@lemmy.sdf.orgU This user is from outside of this forum
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        Not a carrier phone. I don't know what specifically it is, Google Play... something. I disabled automatic updates in Play store, so probably something else. I usually just quickly pull down notification shade and click "Cancel".

        Even disabling all available restriction settings often doesn't quite work. For clock app I set it to unrestricted and disabled optimization in DuraSpeed, still, it's a dice roll. The chances are lower when charging. (Ulefone Armor 24)
        On previous phone Unrestricted setting and locking in recent apps also didn't quite work, but that phone had more issues. I'd often find that everything just randomly crashed overnight. (Poco X3 Pro)

        But it also seems per-app. From experience, the most kill-resistant app is Termux (terminal emulator), but only if you disable child process restriction in developer settings. LibreTorrent also survives well, making the 2 only reliable large background download methods LibreTorrent and wget in Termux.

        But anyway, my Alcatel 1066G dumb phone was just 10 bucks. A more reliable solution (and it supports animated GIF wallpapers πŸ™‚).

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          I uninstalled it on my Samsung last time and just checked but it hasn't reinstalled itself again (yet).

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          You can install this to prevent the official one from being installed automatically
          .https://github.com/daboynb/Safetycore-placeholder

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          • user224@lemmy.sdf.orgU [email protected]

            It often feels like I am just a user of someone else's device.

            Even from the stuff that is shown like "Your device has new features" and "Settings changed by carrier". And how Motorola tried forcing updates by using non-dismisable (they would re-appear immediately) full-screen notifications, and trying to disable the app led me to "Blocked by your IT admin" (I returned that phone).
            Also when I connect any modern phone to Wi-Fi not manually set as metered it starts downloading a bunch of random shit automatically.
            It keeps killing apps I want running (I had to use a cheap dumb phone as alarm clock with the past 2 smartphones), but keeps all Google services conveniently spending data and battery.

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            Did you find a way to get rid of that full screen update notification?

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              Did you find a way to get rid of that full screen update notification?

              user224@lemmy.sdf.orgU This user is from outside of this forum
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              I did, as I said, by returning the phone xD

              I think I also (unsuccessfully) tried ADB.

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              • user224@lemmy.sdf.orgU [email protected]

                It often feels like I am just a user of someone else's device.

                Even from the stuff that is shown like "Your device has new features" and "Settings changed by carrier". And how Motorola tried forcing updates by using non-dismisable (they would re-appear immediately) full-screen notifications, and trying to disable the app led me to "Blocked by your IT admin" (I returned that phone).
                Also when I connect any modern phone to Wi-Fi not manually set as metered it starts downloading a bunch of random shit automatically.
                It keeps killing apps I want running (I had to use a cheap dumb phone as alarm clock with the past 2 smartphones), but keeps all Google services conveniently spending data and battery.

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                This shit is why I buy carrier agnostic, bootloader-unlockable phones with a healthy ROM dev scene. Rocking a Pixel 9 Pro XL, currently on stock ROM (rooted of course), but will be moving to Calyx or Graphene at some point.

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                  Only on Google Pixel phones. You might want give LineageOS a shot.

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                  Lineage is great, been using it for years

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                    This shit is why I buy carrier agnostic, bootloader-unlockable phones with a healthy ROM dev scene. Rocking a Pixel 9 Pro XL, currently on stock ROM (rooted of course), but will be moving to Calyx or Graphene at some point.

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                    Unfortunately, especially with lower budget, that often ends up being choice between hardware and software.

                    I didn't want to run custom ROM on the X3 Pro due to warranty. I had the motherboard replaced thrice, on average surviving for 9 months each... But there were theoretically options.

                    Armor 24 doesn't seem to have any custom ROMs available, as seems to be usual with MTK devices, but the hardware is quite unique. I already had numerous strangers ask me what that phone is, how often it needs to be charged, or "what can that thing do" and "I am not surprised it has such strong light anymore" (it's a massive 85.14Wh brick).
                    To be honest I like how it feels in hand compared to a fragile thin slab.

                    But the only ones making crazy devices like this seem to be brands like Ulefone, Oukitel and Unihertz (they even have a projector phone like Samsung did, but modern) which most likely won't see custom ROMs, and I am too dumb to try building and maintaining something myself. I don't even know how it works with device-specific drivers.

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                    • hominine@lemmy.worldH [email protected]

                      So glad I moved to GrapheneOS last month.

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                      I already have a pixel. Is it just as easy as installing Lineage OS on the phone?

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                        Lol, I think they asked for a firewall, not alternative OS

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                        Oh, I thought they meant firmware.

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                        • hiddenlayer555@lemmy.mlH [email protected]

                          I already have a pixel. Is it just as easy as installing Lineage OS on the phone?

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                          Yes, perhaps even easier if you use a Chromium based browser with their WebUSB installer.

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                          • user224@lemmy.sdf.orgU [email protected]

                            I did, as I said, by returning the phone xD

                            I think I also (unsuccessfully) tried ADB.

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                            Oh, haha, yeah, I tried some stuff in ADB, too, but I think I want to keep the phone a bit longer. Thanks for your answer!

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                              Yes, perhaps even easier if you use a Chromium based browser with their WebUSB installer.

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                              Even if it's not the case, I found the console installer to be surprisingly easy.

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                                Firewalls are a great way to tell if new apps are secrely installed

                                Btw what is the key verifier thing?

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                                Yeah, what is the key verifier thing? It's not like it's Windows and needs a purchased license key, right?

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                                  Google is automatically installing an app on you phone that analyzes your media β€žto prevent you accidentally viewing nudes”

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                                  Phew, I'm always terrified of that.

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                                    Phew, I'm always terrified of that.

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                                    Videos of mass murders βœ…οΈ

                                    A tiny glimpse of a woman's breast ❌️

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                                      Videos of mass murders βœ…οΈ

                                      A tiny glimpse of a woman's breast ❌️

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                                      Just as American Jesusβ„’ would have wanted.

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                                        Firewalls are a great way to tell if new apps are secrely installed

                                        Btw what is the key verifier thing?

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                                        I'll he RethinkDNS for its firewall. It took me a while to work out how to use it (not very skillful at these things), but ever since, I've felt much safer. Rightly or wrongly

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                                          Firewalls are a great way to tell if new apps are secrely installed

                                          Btw what is the key verifier thing?

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                                          Note: The "Key Verifier" one is supposed to be tied to E2EE on Google chat platforms or something on those lines, although you shouldn't be using those and go for a safer chat instead though

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