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What are your alternatives to proton?

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  • R [email protected]

    One reason is to prevent targeted advertisement.

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    It doesn't, though. Not even a little bit. Using encrypted services doesn't stop tracking cookies. That too has to be handled client side. So you would use a browser that lets you use host files via extensions (firefox, etc) and other tracking blocking extensions, or you can setup network wide protection via Adguard Home, etc.

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    • leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zoneL [email protected]

      Info here

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      Thank you!

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        It doesn't, though. Not even a little bit. Using encrypted services doesn't stop tracking cookies. That too has to be handled client side. So you would use a browser that lets you use host files via extensions (firefox, etc) and other tracking blocking extensions, or you can setup network wide protection via Adguard Home, etc.

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        It does. You need both. Even if you have cookies disabled, Gmail can read all of your emails and use that information.

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          To replace everything. Mail, calendar, drive, vpn, password manager, documents etc. What are the pros and cons relative to proton? What are the mobile apps like? What assurances do you have they won't go full proton in the future? And other questions

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          I currently self-host NextCloud and run TailScale to access my home network and use as an exit node for a secure connection when I'm out and about ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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          • R [email protected]

            It does. You need both. Even if you have cookies disabled, Gmail can read all of your emails and use that information.

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            You need both.

            For the third time now--not if the service/device you're using contains both the password and the 2FA... How is this not getting through?

            If someone gets into my Bitwarden install, and gets access to both my passwords and my 2FA seeds, in what way does 2FA protect me? I kept all the family jewels in one place. That's the exact situation two factor authentication is designed to prevent by forcing you to have an additional and separate device/key/passcode/password.

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              You need both.

              For the third time now--not if the service/device you're using contains both the password and the 2FA... How is this not getting through?

              If someone gets into my Bitwarden install, and gets access to both my passwords and my 2FA seeds, in what way does 2FA protect me? I kept all the family jewels in one place. That's the exact situation two factor authentication is designed to prevent by forcing you to have an additional and separate device/key/passcode/password.

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              Say it a fourth time if you want to continue feigning ignorance. You're assuming that the only way your credentials could be compromised is if your password manager it compromised. 2FA would not protect that specific use case if you store both authentication methods in your password manager. However, it does still protect your services from other types of compromises, which is better than no 2FA at all.

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                Say it a fourth time if you want to continue feigning ignorance. You're assuming that the only way your credentials could be compromised is if your password manager it compromised. 2FA would not protect that specific use case if you store both authentication methods in your password manager. However, it does still protect your services from other types of compromises, which is better than no 2FA at all.

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                This community is just as bad as the one on Reddit. Bunch of candies that run around with a VPN thinking they're security experts meanwhile they're the type of person who lets their son get shot because the password to their gun safe is 0000 and they're just flabbergasted that the gun safe didn't work..

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                  To replace everything. Mail, calendar, drive, vpn, password manager, documents etc. What are the pros and cons relative to proton? What are the mobile apps like? What assurances do you have they won't go full proton in the future? And other questions

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                  Mail & Calendar -> Posteo
                  Drive -> Filen
                  VPN -> Mullvad
                  Password Manager -> Bitwarden

                  Don't place all of your eggs in the same basket

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                  • S [email protected]

                    I can personally recommend fruux for calendars and contacts, but their free accounts are rather limited.

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                    I can't find anything specific on their data security - do you have a link to that?

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                      I can't find anything specific on their data security - do you have a link to that?

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                      Maybe you can check their code at github. It's open source, their bugs history and issues are there.

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