Trump’s spell has been broken | The US president is hurting rather than helping his ideological allies such as Nigel Farage
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Summary
Donald Trump's influence on global right-wing politics is waning as his association increasingly becomes a political liability.
In the UK, Nigel Farage's popularity has dropped, with 53% of Reform Party supporters now viewing Trump unfavorably. This shift undermines Farage’s chances of political success.
Internationally, leaders like Canada’s Pierre Poilievre and Italy’s Giorgia Meloni are distancing themselves from Trump.
Meanwhile, Trump's economic promises have faltered, with US growth forecasts down and stock markets struggling.
The fading appeal of Trumpism marks the end of his ideological hold on Westminster politics.
God I hope so
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Jon Stewart made a joke about how dems keep saying the right-wing “fever” is going to break. He showed clips all the way back to Obama.
When Trump can run an ad about giving sex changes to prisoners, to then place them in a female prison, you realize there needs to be a shift towards what the average person actually wants.
Inclusively is nice, but we instead have a guy dismantling everything.
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I hope you're right, but I'm not convinced we can draw conclusions yet. Starmer's government is not popular and while Farage has been a joke at home among many, he never drops out of the picture because he has a lot of international far-right support and consequently a lot of money. Brexit was obviously stupid and happened; giving Farage power would be similarly stupid and I'm not sure it couldn't still happen. In Germany the AfD is still too strong, though not quite as strong as it had hoped. In Canada I hope people have finally seen through Poilievre, but again Canada underestimates the Trumpist/convoy/PP people at its peril, and while Carney is sending a lot of good messages the kind of liiberalism he represents has not traditionally done well in holding off the fascists.
The thing is that Centrist neoliberal politics is completely on appealing to anyone, and the far right has capitalized on that by fighting an alternative that blows but it Taps into racism so they're able to achieve some success against competition that doesn't even pretend to care about you or fight for anything other than billionaire profits. That's also why Unapologetic left-wing parties can also do well sometimes when not actively suppressed. Even stuff like Bernie Sanders and AOC's rally tour shows that people something different than what we have, and they don't seem to be too picky about what it is specifically. If we can convince them that the left wing side offers them a better life than the right wing we can beat them
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The thing is that Centrist neoliberal politics is completely on appealing to anyone, and the far right has capitalized on that by fighting an alternative that blows but it Taps into racism so they're able to achieve some success against competition that doesn't even pretend to care about you or fight for anything other than billionaire profits. That's also why Unapologetic left-wing parties can also do well sometimes when not actively suppressed. Even stuff like Bernie Sanders and AOC's rally tour shows that people something different than what we have, and they don't seem to be too picky about what it is specifically. If we can convince them that the left wing side offers them a better life than the right wing we can beat them
Thing about windows is you can shatter them. Time to defenestrate neoliberalism right through the Overton Window.
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There is a tendency amongst those on the political extremes to:
Silence opposing voices;
Push for, and sometimes implement the policing and criminalization of certain speech; Root out 'enemies' through witch-hunts and humiliation rituals or 'struggle sessions';
Enforce a conformity of ideas and opinions through the threat of ostracization, humiliation or violence.
Instill a culture of fear around speech or activities contrary to the 'party line.'
Amongst other things.So, there can be no consequences for speech? That's bullshit.
Are some overly zealous in their response? Sure. Is that authoritarian? Hell no.
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Jon Stewart made a joke about how dems keep saying the right-wing “fever” is going to break. He showed clips all the way back to Obama.
Yeah, it's not a fever, it's more like a reversion to our primitive mean. That being said, actually doing things they have to defend is what made fascism uncool the first time.
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Glad the rest of the world is learning from our mistake.
Yes, thanks America. You're finally up on the cross with the best of them.
(I'm sorry this is happening to you, OP)
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Jon Stewart made a joke about how dems keep saying the right-wing “fever” is going to break. He showed clips all the way back to Obama.
DOGE gutting the goverment and randomly firing tens of thousands of people. Social Security at risk. The VA at risk. The Department of Education Dead. The stock market in correction territory. Consumer confidence down. People protesting at Tesla stores. Massive crowds showing up for AOC and Sanders. At war with our allies as we randomly deport people and fall into facism.
Checks approval polling for Trump - 49%
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DOGE gutting the goverment and randomly firing tens of thousands of people. Social Security at risk. The VA at risk. The Department of Education Dead. The stock market in correction territory. Consumer confidence down. People protesting at Tesla stores. Massive crowds showing up for AOC and Sanders. At war with our allies as we randomly deport people and fall into facism.
Checks approval polling for Trump - 49%
I swear, the orange fuck could nuke Texas and kill every Texan and his approval rating would only drop by .01%
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I swear, the orange fuck could nuke Texas and kill every Texan and his approval rating would only drop by .01%
Nah, Texas makes too much money. Oklahoma maybe
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So, there can be no consequences for speech? That's bullshit.
Are some overly zealous in their response? Sure. Is that authoritarian? Hell no.
There are always consequences, some more productive that others. Note that I am not claiming that progressive politics are authoritarian, only that there are authoritarian tendencies on the far left end of the progressive spectrum. I would probably class myself as progressive. Green/Labour left is probably closer.
Where one might say 'overly zealous' another might say 'authoritarian.'
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That's assuming he's even considering that there will be future elections. Or at least elections in which the oligarchs have a chance of losing (I'm still betting Trump plans on living forever and never ceding power because narcissist).
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Yup. In several countries, including my own (Portugal), the 'far right' who tends to repeat Trump's talking points is raising red flags all over.
Poilievre in Canada, Farage in the UK, the whole AfD/Musk/Vance debacle in Germany, and so on. And many of these parties were gaining strong traction with each election. Now Trump's image association with them might as well be a radioactive label.
Just a little while ago, the IL (liberals, but now they are more like libertarians) was saying that we had to adopt an efficiency department like DOGE. Apparently they don't believe that Trump and Musk's image can damage theirs.
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There are always consequences, some more productive that others. Note that I am not claiming that progressive politics are authoritarian, only that there are authoritarian tendencies on the far left end of the progressive spectrum. I would probably class myself as progressive. Green/Labour left is probably closer.
Where one might say 'overly zealous' another might say 'authoritarian.'
Only if you consider Marxist leninism Etc as far left. Which by all accounts you shouldn't. They have very little issue working with the other authoritarian groups such as fascists. And even straddle the line with fascism in modern day with countries like China . They are authoritarian more than anything else. I don't see actual far left groups like anarchists or left libertarians advocating any sort of authoritarianism. Just authoritarian groups.
Progresses have never outlawed language or those that use it either. I really got to say it seems like you don't know much about what you're talking about. Instead just trying to both sides things. And create some false Center. In which to feel better about yourself.
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Jon Stewart made a joke about how dems keep saying the right-wing “fever” is going to break. He showed clips all the way back to Obama.
The WALLS are CLOSING IN on him!
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Rhetoric that there won't be future elections is straight up pussy shit. Go lay down and die somewhere else.
They did not imply that there won't be future elections; they suggested Trump believes there won't be. It's a pretty likely possibility, the man is a narcissist who idolizes autocrats
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There is a tendency amongst those on the political extremes to:
Silence opposing voices;
Push for, and sometimes implement the policing and criminalization of certain speech; Root out 'enemies' through witch-hunts and humiliation rituals or 'struggle sessions';
Enforce a conformity of ideas and opinions through the threat of ostracization, humiliation or violence.
Instill a culture of fear around speech or activities contrary to the 'party line.'
Amongst other things.It's really hard to respond to this, as none of those things really exist in a remotely popular context in American Progressivism. Freedom of speech has always existed (i.e. your protected from the government), however you were never free from the repercussions of what you said in a public setting. If you say something morally reprehensible, as a public figure, or even as an employee, you have to expect that there will be fallout.
"Struggle Sessions" was a Maoist/Red China thing back decades ago. Not sure why that was referenced....
"Enforce a conformity of ideas and opinions" I'm assuming is a reference to "cancel culture". As a "consumer" why am I responsible for consuming content or a product made by a controversial figure or company? There's thousands of people that are just as good, or better than someone that caught a lucky break and became famous for something. For example, Kevin Spacey, Kanye, Dixie Chicks, etc.
As far as I'm aware, there has never been a "party line" in the general population. Sure, the Democrat political party has a sort of "party line" but you can see even that's not exactly holding up as people like Sanders, AOC, and Jasmine Crockett have been trying to break that apart for the last decade.
To be frank, none of those things remotely exist as you think, they come off more as conservative talking points about how evil "progressives" are, but in reality I've never once seen anything like that either on a public front or in my personal life...ever. not trying to be insulting here, but I'm worried that you have an extremely warped view of what you think "progressives" and the "left" represent.
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Summary
Donald Trump's influence on global right-wing politics is waning as his association increasingly becomes a political liability.
In the UK, Nigel Farage's popularity has dropped, with 53% of Reform Party supporters now viewing Trump unfavorably. This shift undermines Farage’s chances of political success.
Internationally, leaders like Canada’s Pierre Poilievre and Italy’s Giorgia Meloni are distancing themselves from Trump.
Meanwhile, Trump's economic promises have faltered, with US growth forecasts down and stock markets struggling.
The fading appeal of Trumpism marks the end of his ideological hold on Westminster politics.
He's a cult leader. Cult leader's spells are only broken when they die.
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Only if you consider Marxist leninism Etc as far left. Which by all accounts you shouldn't. They have very little issue working with the other authoritarian groups such as fascists. And even straddle the line with fascism in modern day with countries like China . They are authoritarian more than anything else. I don't see actual far left groups like anarchists or left libertarians advocating any sort of authoritarianism. Just authoritarian groups.
Progresses have never outlawed language or those that use it either. I really got to say it seems like you don't know much about what you're talking about. Instead just trying to both sides things. And create some false Center. In which to feel better about yourself.
I think that left politics are more compassionate and probably better for more people, particularly working class people so I absolutely am not a centrist in that regard.
In terms of extremism/authoritarianism; everyone's susceptible to it and I don't think online discourse helps things, particularly when it comes to assumptions about others' motives and our lack of charitability.
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Maybe there should be a federal agency for making sure Americans learn things? The Bureau of Learning? No there has to be a name that's gooder than that.
Department of Getting Educated
