Organic Maps migrates to Forgejo due to GitHub account blocked by Microsoft.
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Cooperatives are still a corporation, but the ownership is distributed more than the CEO style corporation we are used to.
Are there any 501c3's out there that I can host with? That would be the dream. Unless I guess buying into a cooperative of those exist
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This is a really strong argument for not depending on non-federated, centrally controlled services. It doesn't matter which country or company is behind Your Favorite Service
, they can be legally mandated to by Oppressive Regime ("it could never happen in my country!"), or they could just be arbitrary assholes.I don't care why Microsoft did it. I moved off Github when MS acquired them, although in this case it probably wouldn't have made a difference. Regardless, what it proves is that you can not rely on a monopoly.
I don't think federation saves us. If the server owners are in the states they still have to comply. I don't know for certain, but I think if there are us citizens using it, some laws might compel non us based servers as well.
The only way around it is that I can think of is tor. That doesn't make it legal it would just be harder to stop.
All of this is assuming the US justice department would even care enough though.
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cross-posted from: https://feddit.org/post/9959466
geteilt von: https://programming.dev/post/27692275
This is the benefit of using distributed tools like git.
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Are there any 501c3's out there that I can host with? That would be the dream. Unless I guess buying into a cooperative of those exist
A membership cooperative isn't a bad idea I suppose for a cloud service. I think having users vote on the administration of a service could get hard to work with though unless the vote was to delegate it out.
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Are there any 501c3's out there that I can host with? That would be the dream. Unless I guess buying into a cooperative of those exist
I think the point above currently we are relying on mega corps data centers and there is not practical way to replace that right now or in the near future.
With that being said, every household could theoretically have a small sever and we all can create clusters to support local needs needs with out having to pay the toll to the parasite.
Today's self hosting pinoneers could be the back bone of future decentralized internet.
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So now we know how to instantly delist any project on GitHub.
Step 1: Get write access to the project you dislike.
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I think the point above currently we are relying on mega corps data centers and there is not practical way to replace that right now or in the near future.
With that being said, every household could theoretically have a small sever and we all can create clusters to support local needs needs with out having to pay the toll to the parasite.
Today's self hosting pinoneers could be the back bone of future decentralized internet.
Take a look at meshtastic, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meshtastic
Not exactly what you are talking about but it's a local tech solution for communication
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So now we know how to instantly delist any project on GitHub.
My guess is there is an admin that knows where each contributor is from. And can approve or decline check in requests.
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cross-posted from: https://feddit.org/post/9959466
geteilt von: https://programming.dev/post/27692275
organic maps ftw!
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Not that I condone Microsoft, but if it is a sanctioned country (Russia, Iran, North Korea, etc.). Microsoft will be in shit with the US government if they let it there.
If the project has contributors from there, then I guess they need to move off GitHub like they did.
If I interpret this toot correctly, there wasn’t a direct commit from a sanctioned region, but one developer was in one of those regions for a short while quite some time ago. And he may have been flagged because of this.
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https://feddit.org/post/9959466/5697405
[why blocked?]
"a contributor made a push from a sanctioned region is what i saw. not even a main dev, and they didn’t receive any warning is my understanding. i might be way off, i’m not a final source:That's strange. A lot of people from Russia continue contributing on GitHub without any issues.
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This is the benefit of using distributed tools like git.
Yeah, the code history is the easiest thing to migrate. The other stuff like issues relies on having a good exporting/importing tool on both sides.
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YMMV. I've seen issues in migration from Gitea to Codeberg. Always test first.
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cross-posted from: https://feddit.org/post/9959466
geteilt von: https://programming.dev/post/27692275
If this doesn't spur on an antitrust suit in the EU, I don't know what will.
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If this doesn't spur on an antitrust suit in the EU, I don't know what will.
It probably won't, they were banned due to sanctions that the EU completely support. Though they were unblocked so it raises questions was the ban even legitimate and also why it took 2 weeks to unban them.
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Not that I condone Microsoft, but if it is a sanctioned country (Russia, Iran, North Korea, etc.). Microsoft will be in shit with the US government if they let it there.
If the project has contributors from there, then I guess they need to move off GitHub like they did.
wrote on last edited by [email protected].
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This is the benefit of using distributed tools like git.
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Not that I condone Microsoft, but if it is a sanctioned country (Russia, Iran, North Korea, etc.). Microsoft will be in shit with the US government if they let it there.
If the project has contributors from there, then I guess they need to move off GitHub like they did.
If they can tell they're from a banned region why are they letting them push in the first place. Sounds like a convenient excuse.
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If I interpret this toot correctly, there wasn’t a direct commit from a sanctioned region, but one developer was in one of those regions for a short while quite some time ago. And he may have been flagged because of this.
That seems bullshit.
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Yea tons of devs treat all of these platforms like the central host, but you can host it on all of them at once lol
Wonder if there's a tool for compiling all issues from seperate sources to allow devs with repos hosted on several different platforms to respond easier.
Also feels like a way to get repeat issues more frequently
